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DHagar
DHagar
6/13/2017 6:30:05 PM
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Re: Pay TV
@srufolo1 - hurray for your option!  I fully agree!  I think age will not matter if you provide services that people want.  The old age designation I believe is an outdated model.  Your idea has more merit.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
6/13/2017 1:11:15 PM
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Pay TV
"Maybe don't focus on age brackets at all? I think the best strategy is to focus on making products that appeal to everyone. The iPad is simply a great design that anyone can use, so I doubt Apple tried to make it appeal to young kids OR older adults -- they just made a product that was easy to use."

 

I agree. After all, the Millennials are going to grow older, and their habits may change. And it's not good to ignore existing customers over trying to gain new ones. Anyone in a successful business knows that. Existing customers bring a steady stream of revenue.


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elizabethv
elizabethv
6/13/2017 7:13:06 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@Adi - Sounds like a really good deal to me. I'd imagine I wouldn't get great service  where I am though. I'm on the outskirts of Denver and even getting internet out to us seems to be complicated. 

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Ariella
Ariella
6/12/2017 4:22:59 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@mhhf1ve If you're referring to the ruling I think you're referring to, that actually did evolve somewhat according to this.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/12/2017 2:08:50 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
Old laws are not necessarily bad.. it's how we interpret them -- or allow them to be interpreted. The Surpreme Court could have threaded the needle with some technological argument, but it doesn't have to.. and "quacks like a duck" is now a precedent for future law suits... no matter how ridiculous it sounds as a legal argument. 

I guess it's no worse than "I'll know it when I see it"..... 

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Ariella
Ariella
6/12/2017 2:00:22 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
Thanks for the link @mhhf1ve so all this stems from the transmit clause enacted in 1976 Copyright Act. Broadcasting has really changed a great deal since then!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/12/2017 1:50:36 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@ariella - RE: "the case against VidAngel" -- That'a another classic example of how copyright infringement cases can stamp out the competition for alternative pay-TV services.

There's a very fine line between caching a video stream and "quacking like a duck" -- that is, providing a cable TV service, "Quack!"... as the Supreme Court avoided all technological issues and simply made all services that appeared to be cableTV to be treated as cableTV. That ruling effectively shuts down a lot of innovative OTT services that might otherwise try to exist.... 

https://dltr.law.duke.edu/2016/01/21/aereo-and-internet-television-a-call-to-save-the-ducks-a-la-carte/

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/12/2017 1:44:37 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
> "The key of course, is whether you get reception, how clear it is, and for how many and which, channels."

That's the part that Aereo was good at.. since it captured the OTA transmissions at a central location that presumably had good reception for all the local channels, it made it a reliable source of quality OTA video for its "cloud DVR" service. 

Unfortunately, that business model is pretty much dead now, due to the licensing restrictions that can't possibly be met by doing what Aereo did.

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Ariella
Ariella
6/12/2017 10:53:15 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@mhhf1ve that reminds me of the case against VidAngel that resulted  See http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7dfc9441-e563-467a-a865-0c68c92c5ce8

VidAngel describes itself as a family-friendly video streamer that allows users the ability to filter language, nudity and violence from movies and TV shows. Its business model involves selling new movies to customers for $20, allowing customers to select which snippets of content to edit out, and then buying movies back for $19. The price VidAngel will pay to buy back the content diminishes by a dollar for each day the buyer keeps it. In other words, VidAngel does not license the movies from the studios who hold the copyrights to the content like, for example, Netflix does.

The big studios took notice, and in June filed suit, alleging that VidAngel was operating as an "unlicensed [video on demand] streaming service." Among other claims, the studios requested that the court grant an injunction blocking VidAngel from continuing to stream films. VidAngel fired back with counterclaims alleging antitrust violations by the studios.

In December, a federal district court judge ruled in the plaintiffs' favor and issued a preliminary injunction against VidAngel pending the outcome of the copyright-infringement trial. "VidAngel has not offered any evidence that the Plaintiffs have either explicitly or implicitly authorized DVD buyers to circumvent encryption technology in order to view the DVD on a different platform such as VidAngel's streaming service," wrote Judge Andre Birotte Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

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Adi
Adi
6/12/2017 7:04:44 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
elizabethv - I think the basic box is about $100 (which you have to buy), and then there's no monthly fee for the broadcast service -- and obviously also no contract. But they do have a bunch of add-ons, both in terms of services and devices, so that's where it gets more complicated and expensive. But you can start comparatvely low and select what works for you. The key of course, is whether you get reception, how clear it is, and for how many and which, channels. 

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