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clrmoney
clrmoney
6/9/2017 10:42:14 AM
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Pay TV is an Option
Pay TV is is very popular like Spectrum, Dish Direct TV etc. Mostly the young crowd is obsessed more with it and some older people.  Some have ridiculous payment options and hidden fees so you have to ask yourself at the end of the day is it really worth it just to see Pay TV.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/9/2017 12:12:13 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
Are we seeing the death of OTA TV? The switch to digital broadcast has brought some benefits but also drawbacks for people with antennas. If you're lucky enough to get a signal, it's great, but if not -- you're left with just pay TV or OTT services (or DVDs by mail?).

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afwriter
afwriter
6/11/2017 12:35:38 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
You are right about the signal, I live in a metro area so I get a decent signal and somewhere around 40 channels, but just 150 miles away my dad can't get a single channel using my antenna. I think that OTA would see a huge boom if someone could introduce a cheap and effective DVR for OTA. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/11/2017 3:10:23 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
I think that's what Aereo was trying to do -- make a DVR for OTA transmissions that was inexpensive and reliable. But the Supreme Court somehow came up with a "looks like a duck" judgment that killed it off. If the decision had gone the other way, there would be a crazy amount of competition for internet video streams.

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Adi
Adi
6/12/2017 4:09:51 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
afwriter - I believe Dish is trying to do that in the US with AirTV -- it's a hybrid OTA-broadband set-top box, and I think they do the installation. So you can get your local broadcast channels for free, use the DVR in the box and get streaming videos from, various sources, including Sling.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
6/12/2017 5:47:15 AM
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Pay-TV for everyone
I think Pay-TV providers will be more successful if they focus on maintaining a product that could be useful for any age. Part of their marketing and product needs to be appealing to the younger generation who potentially may have never even been a part of the Pay-TV market. That means offering convenience and innovation. Still, a big part of their market comes from an older generation not willing to cut the cord. As such, they need to offer a product that is helpful and basic for the older generation to remain a part of their business. With most people, old or young, a big part of their decision to do business with a company is customer service. Offer solid customer service that is useful and helpful to all generations, and their company will be successful. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
6/12/2017 6:03:12 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@Adi - on the surface is sounds like it would be an appealing product, i would think even to those in the yuounger generation. My big question would be about price. If it was a reasonable price, I'd probably consider it. Especially with Sling added and the ability to access local channels. I'm not opposed to being chained with a cord, but I am no where near willing to jump into bed with an expensive contract that has an ever-increasing bill attached. 

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Adi
Adi
6/12/2017 7:04:44 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
elizabethv - I think the basic box is about $100 (which you have to buy), and then there's no monthly fee for the broadcast service -- and obviously also no contract. But they do have a bunch of add-ons, both in terms of services and devices, so that's where it gets more complicated and expensive. But you can start comparatvely low and select what works for you. The key of course, is whether you get reception, how clear it is, and for how many and which, channels. 

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Ariella
Ariella
6/12/2017 10:53:15 AM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
@mhhf1ve that reminds me of the case against VidAngel that resulted  See http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=7dfc9441-e563-467a-a865-0c68c92c5ce8

VidAngel describes itself as a family-friendly video streamer that allows users the ability to filter language, nudity and violence from movies and TV shows. Its business model involves selling new movies to customers for $20, allowing customers to select which snippets of content to edit out, and then buying movies back for $19. The price VidAngel will pay to buy back the content diminishes by a dollar for each day the buyer keeps it. In other words, VidAngel does not license the movies from the studios who hold the copyrights to the content like, for example, Netflix does.

The big studios took notice, and in June filed suit, alleging that VidAngel was operating as an "unlicensed [video on demand] streaming service." Among other claims, the studios requested that the court grant an injunction blocking VidAngel from continuing to stream films. VidAngel fired back with counterclaims alleging antitrust violations by the studios.

In December, a federal district court judge ruled in the plaintiffs' favor and issued a preliminary injunction against VidAngel pending the outcome of the copyright-infringement trial. "VidAngel has not offered any evidence that the Plaintiffs have either explicitly or implicitly authorized DVD buyers to circumvent encryption technology in order to view the DVD on a different platform such as VidAngel's streaming service," wrote Judge Andre Birotte Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
6/12/2017 1:44:37 PM
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Re: Pay TV is an Option
> "The key of course, is whether you get reception, how clear it is, and for how many and which, channels."

That's the part that Aereo was good at.. since it captured the OTA transmissions at a central location that presumably had good reception for all the local channels, it made it a reliable source of quality OTA video for its "cloud DVR" service. 

Unfortunately, that business model is pretty much dead now, due to the licensing restrictions that can't possibly be met by doing what Aereo did.

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