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clrmoney
clrmoney
1/16/2018 10:44:09 AM
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Automation for 5G Era
I like that have automation meaning automated to whatever service or product that is available from a company and 5G and Cloud working together just make things better and easier for more speed and network connectivity and also for customers.

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afwriter
afwriter
1/16/2018 5:30:58 PM
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Re: Automation for 5G Era
I'm so jacked for the 5G era! It will revolutionize the world. As the respondent mentioned, 5G can't beat FTTH but for all intents and purposes I don't think that most people need FTTH yet, I think 5G now will change lives. 

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batye
batye
1/17/2018 5:24:17 PM
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Re: Automation for 5G Era
@afwriter the way I see it it only will keep growing as technology require faster speeds and larger downloads ... 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/22/2018 9:44:59 PM
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Re: Automation for 5G Era
@afwriter: Slow down, there. 5G's great, sure, but there's only so much spectrum to go around. All 5G represents, really, is a next-gen stop-gap measure as the biggest of the big on the wireless side roll out more fiber to converge more effectively in the fixed-wireline market.

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DHagar
DHagar
1/16/2018 4:47:50 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
I agree and like the description of the second line of thinking as well, that 5G is new architecture for an extended network of new applied technologies.  This truly opens up new channels, as well as applications, and I believe will result in a fundamental shift.

I believe it will be transformative and not just another "add on".  It truly will advance autonomous technology use as well and become a foundational component to new networked communications.

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afwriter
afwriter
1/17/2018 3:47:15 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
5G may be the biggest social and technological advancement since the smartphone, that is for sure. I don't think anyone could predict right now how it will change our lives just like 10 years ago people would never guess how dependent we have become on smartphones. 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/17/2018 7:05:28 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@afwriter, I fully agree.  We can only anticipate known uses, but the development and applications will unveil unknowns that may even dwarf the initial uses!

Exciting times!

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/22/2018 9:45:49 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@afwriter: Call me a cynic, but any technology that has made us "dependent" upon it doesn't sound like much of an "advancement" to me... ;)

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afwriter
afwriter
1/22/2018 11:06:23 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@Joe maybe dependent is too strong of a word, but it does make life way easier. I recently went on my first vacation ever and felt much more secure as I had my boarding passes on my phone and the airline was constantly sending me updates about where my bags were and any changes there were in boarding. Sure, I could have survived without that stuff but it was nice to have. 

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batye
batye
1/27/2018 6:48:16 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@afwriter yes, this days technology gives you better control over your life and easy to see and control little things in life... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2018 2:06:33 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
Definitely. Itís important in every day life nowadays. Itís also important to not get caught up in all of it. I know how hard that is though.

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batye
batye
2/1/2018 1:12:37 AM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@dlr5288 yes I could not agree more but this days everyone must have a me time away from technology to unwind and relax... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/27/2018 12:30:41 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
I completely agree! If I donít get some time away I get a massive headache! Every time, itís very important to have that time away.

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batye
batye
3/1/2018 1:21:36 AM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@dlr5288 I try to give myself and my wife time away from technology as time to rest I unplug and turn off everything... and have time to rest and relax... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/28/2018 4:53:29 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
I also feel like youíre so much more relaxed with constantly being on a phone, laptop, etc. Technology really tenses people up, in my opinion.

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batye
batye
4/2/2018 11:29:48 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@dlr5288 it like addiction and it never stops I see ,more and more people becomming attached to they screen and it never stops or solution to it... information addiction I call it... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/30/2018 4:48:59 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
Also people are always trying to get back to other people as quickly as possible. Everyoneís always rushing. We donít always need to give a response right away.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/3/2018 8:47:17 AM
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@batye @dlr528 there are even special retreats set up to allow people to "detox" from screen connection.  Even if you can't afford that, you can follow the tips here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hope-relationships/201403/7-tips-technology-detox

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batye
batye
4/3/2018 3:56:48 PM
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@Ariella yes I heard about it ... plus our Can. gov. started promoting healthy life style on tv adds as live technology inside - go outside enjoy nature... 

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Ariella
Ariella
4/3/2018 4:33:53 PM
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@batye I don't know if you see the same in Canada, but around where I am, playgrounds are often empty -- even on nice days. Kids are so connected to their screens that they need to stay around the source of connection rather than risk losing it. Even if they do get dragged to a park, those above the age of 12 or so have their phones in hand and likely in front of their faces, blocking out their view of nature. It's sad.

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batye
batye
4/4/2018 7:09:41 PM
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Re: Automation Leading 5G Era
@Ariella the sad reality I got the same problem with my Godkids instead of me teching them how to make paper ships/aeroplane, bow and arrows, arbalet, bumerangs, bake potato on open fire, go fishing... they prefer I buy them a PS3 or XBox 360 game or let them access to my steam account or google play to watch a movie or play pc game with me at home... but do not go outside to enjoy the nature... or learn survival skills... I have guest access to the shooting range and access to BB and 22LR guns on the range for the guests and kids... sadly my Godkids did not show any interest to learn to shoot or any other survival skills like make basic traps, cook on the open fire, filtrate the water... and live off the nature safely and responsibly while enjoy it... when I try to teach them how to create a basic shoes from the dead tree bark skin and dry dead grass as they show and tell class project - other kids in class call them rednecks... and it kills they spririt... now as a treat I buy for them dvd from the trift store with old and new classic movies to watch... as I want them to learn at least classic of the Movies... like Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, Metropolis, Triumph of the Will, Battleship Potemkin, Doctor Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, Fiddler on the Roof, The Bells of Nagasaki, Disco Dancer by Indian Bollywood, Das Boot, Enemy at the Gates, The Counterfeiters,

The Pianist... ( I do not like Roman Polanski or any Communism ideas, Nor support and agree on any socialist or nationalist ideas in my views I support Constitutional Monarchy Canadian and Jordanian style)

... as in my books kids must learn/know and understand about good and bad of the past... to have the knowledge and ability to understand and sorted out truth and lies... form they own opinion based on the facts and knowledge history... based on true facts... like people trying to forget or omit from the history like porsche tanks, or hugo boss ss uniform... or did the Son of the God was Israeli or Israelite and to try to figure out you need to read Tora, Bible and Koran... not accept what our priest tell us based on his catholic seminary education and ordination...

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Ariella
Ariella
4/4/2018 7:26:01 PM
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@Batye well, you get credit for trying. I know that kids can be mean, but I find it hard to believe they'd belittle a kid for survival skills and making shoes. I'd suspect they were secretly jealous.  But you know, this makes a great movie plot. The kids who Google everything stuck in a forest with no access to the internet who have to learn what to do from the  kids with Boy Scout style training that they had looked down on before. 

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batye
batye
4/4/2018 11:53:15 PM
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@Ariella yes but I try to expose my Godkids to anything and everything - this way it improves the odds to survive anywhere and in Co-operation with everyone... I try to teach my kids simple understanding our Catholic way but also to be aware than - Son of God Jesus -Yēšūă -ʿĪsā ibn Maryam... for me I feel comfortable in any place with anyone... as I know where people came from historically and religiously... this way it easy to understand the person and communicate... I expose my Godkids to all of my friends Jews, Arabs, Asian, Indian, LGBT and straight, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, Rastafarians... I do not discriminate and I try to explaine to my kids when People do not understant they fear it and it a problem... kids today afraid of the nature... people afraid to ask question as everyone try to follow BE POLITICALY CORRECT...  but I tell my Godkids keep open mind and ask question while you are child and get away with asking non politicaly correct question... it like my highly educated  Russian Jewish friend told me he afraid to date very nice looking girl  Somalia/Ethiopian  mix working at his office...  as she keep asking him out but he worried as her blood line or relatives maybe related to pirates... I ask him non-politicaly correct question and ask him to do a little research online  on the Russian Prison Camp Gulag - his grandfather spend some time there... and his grandmother survive a siege of leningrad... plus look up jewish tribe in ethiopia and my jamaican-wife favorite -  queen of shiba at first he replyed "You are crazy and Antisemite...  I do not know why we are friends..". after reading everything checking and re-cheking he bring me Bottle of rare vine keep saying oh he is sorry, very sorry... and why he never learn this in Hebrew School... I reply my late friend Dr. Rekai always keept his mind open... I try to do the same... what we do not understand we fear it... same with technology and life - must be balance... and to understanding - Not fear of it... or addiction... 

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Ariella
Ariella
1/23/2018 5:47:10 PM
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@Joe agreed. The tech then is no longer just the means to an end that is about serving actual rather than manufactured needs.

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batye
batye
4/2/2018 11:31:21 PM
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@Ariella interestion point as this days it more about bottom line than nothing else... just to see better bottom line now... Co. keep forgeting about everything else... 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/23/2018 3:00:38 PM
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Widening the growing pains ...
(Yes, I know that title is a mixed metaphor. This post may be metaphor sangria before I'm done ...)

Because handling trouble tickets is so labor intensive it's a natural bottleneck to be automated around (because disemploying workers, and thereby moving money from wages to profits, is where the money is!) So as Antlitz says, it's going to be a high priority area. 

Unfortunately the reason trouble tickets have resisted automation is that they tend to be unique (if the problems they track had single causes and fixes they would mostly be automated already).  And they tend to come from the least tech-savvy people and remote sites(since by definition they're something you can't fix locally). 

The people who need help the most are very apt to be the ones who have the most trouble using the early automated systems, because at first they won't communicate in anything very much like natural language and they'll tend to assume a user who knows what s/he needs; that's pretty typically the pattern for automating a formerly human service (think of the early voice recognition phone systems).  

Over time, the automated systems will improve, and some of the users will get a bhit more tech savvy, and eventually it will smooth out, but it's going to be rough ride at first, and the roughness is going to be on the marginal users (and on the people who lose their jobs).

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Ariella
Ariella
1/23/2018 4:52:17 PM
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@JohnBarnes You're absolutely spot on! My husband's job is solving those ticket problems, and the automation helps not a whit. It just puts people through an extra round -- like phone menus -- which increases their frustation. Yes, I suppose you can have a recording a la "The IT Crowd" that suggests trying to turn it off and on again. But really, as you said, many of the problems are unique and require some diagnosis to find out the root cause of the problem and then solve it.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/23/2018 7:32:13 PM
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@JohnBarnes: And it may be worth mentioning that the jobs required to communicate in natural language will increase. This is not only because of the technical illiterate need help but also because a long sequence of automated and confusing steps have to be often executed before anything gets done. My experience with mobile apps is that they almost never have adequate documentation technical or otherwise and often I have to abandon them because I just don't have that much time to figure them out. The voice assistants are barely usable when they can't recognize your accents. So more jobs to get them right. Then the number of apps keep increasing with automation so jobs go up X number of times.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/23/2018 9:02:38 PM
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Re: Widening the growing pains ...
Kishore, Absolutely; for a while there will be work for people people who can talk to people and who are proficient on the more and more automated systems. But not for as many as the techs who were laid off. And not as well paid because they wonít have to know as much in as much detail. And every time one of them handles a case, the recording of it becomes training material for the AIs. So doom wonít all fall all at once ó but fall it inevitably will.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/4/2018 2:28:05 PM
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@Ariella - My family recently moved out of the Denver area and to a small town a little bit east of Fort Collins (still in Colorado, about an hour north of Denver.) I saw this kind of thing frequently in Denver. At one point I literally watched a family of 3 kids all sit at the park with their eyes glued on a screen. I was floored that any parent would even bother taking their kid to a park just to sit behind a screen. Now that we are in our small town though, I don't see it nearly at all. In fact in a little over an hour I will be packing up my kids to go meet 7 other moms, and their kids at the park. These kids (there are well over 15 of them) play together on almost a weekly basis with extremely minimal fighting. Which to me is just insane, from the first time I witnessed it. My 3 fight more between themselves. 

I also think it's crazy that McDonald's Play Places have video games in them. And that's all Burger King offers anymore. My kids know if I see them sitting at one of the video games in McDonald's we're leaving right away. They have tablets, but they are under the age of 6, they need to be playing. Not staring at screens. (I say as my oldest stares at my cellphone doing his homework.) Lol. 

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Ariella
Ariella
4/4/2018 4:22:26 PM
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@elizabeth it's interesting that there are regional differences. I wonder if those will persist or disappear over time as screens gain even more traction in a young child's life. 

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elizabethv
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4/9/2018 3:59:36 PM
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@Ariella - That will be interesting to see also. It's hard to deny that kids do need to know how to use electronics. But I have to hope the prevelance with younger kids is more controlled by parents than by circumstances. I can't imagine a reason that toddlers would need to use an app on a smart phone. Though I did just see a new reading program where a clip hooks onto a smartphone and then tells you a story. I'm really on the fence about this. 

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Ariella
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4/9/2018 4:34:00 PM
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@elizabethv I don't have such young kids myelf, but as I recall the pediatrician guidelines generally say no screen time for anyone under two. This was more recently amended somewhat. See https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/10/21/498550475/american-academy-of-pediatrics-lifts-no-screens-under-2-rule

The thing is that I've seen neighbors with children who have been planted in front of TVs since they were babies. This frees the parents from having to actively engage with them, but the kids are not picking up on essential developmental skills that comes from activities involving another person who responds and encourages communication. They also don't get tread to unless a babysitter chooses to do so. These kids all needed speech therapy even years after entering school. It's really sad. 

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elizabethv
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4/11/2018 3:59:30 PM
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@Ariella - That article was really interesting! I hadn't heard that the total ban had been lifted. I also know people who just put their kids in front of a television for all hours of the day. I personally don't know how they get away with it. I can't even get my 1-year-old to stay watching a television show for 10 minutes so I can wash the dishes without him pulling on my pant leg screaming for me to pick him up. My middle son still is and always was the only one that would spend any amount of discernable time in front of a screen. Even my oldest still can't do it for too long. And my middle son is by far the most active (go figure that one.) Maybe it's because whether he likes it or not, I refuse to let my kids spend large amounts of time in front of screens. The reduced language abilities part makes a lot of sense. My friends kids have both been really slow talkers and they stay home with their dad all day, and I know for a fact all they do is sit in front of screens. Her oldest could fluently use his parents tablet by the age of 1. I've always found it to be irresponsible. But such is life. 

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Ariella
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4/11/2018 4:10:54 PM
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@elizabet Parental shortcuts when kids are this young leave them paying the price ever after. Unless the child is born with a particular ability or disability that makes him/her exceptional, the environment is what makes the biggest difference. Reading to kids is associated with many developmental and school benefits as per the study reported here https://health.usnews.com/health-care/articles/2018-04-09/reading-to-your-kids-might-boost-their-social-skills

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