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batye
11/1/2017 11:25:01 PM
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Re: Another sidepoint, glad to see someone say the old tradeoff is over
@Ariella the way I see it it constant trade off as it not an easy or simple process gather right data and use it right to figure it out correctly as everything is in motion...
Ariella
11/1/2017 10:08:09 AM
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Re: Another sidepoint, glad to see someone say the old tradeoff is over
@JohnBarnes, What you say is true about disentangling, but I don't know if we'll see anyone puruse it. Generally, businesses are content to leave correlations as causation in cases like this, simply acknowledging that there are some other factors. It's true of other correlations, as well. Life can be very complex, so it is difficult to trace the one true cause of something and be positive that there were not other pressures at play at the same time.
JohnBarnes
10/31/2017 9:54:51 PM
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Another sidepoint, glad to see someone say the old tradeoff is over
The point that convenience, flexibility, and security are not in a three way tradeoff anymore is probably profound in its implications. Because the potential loss from a security breach was always so high, effectively it forced a tradeoff between flexibility and convenience that meant many technically feasible, desirable features couldn't be offered. That problem is rapidly coming to an end; there's a big backlog of things, especially in shared and collaborative software, that should come surging out soon.
JohnBarnes
10/31/2017 9:48:57 PM
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Re: Point of Statistical Order
VNewman, Ariella,
Yeah, that's the thing I'm finding interesting -- is that I don't think I've seen anyone anywhere actually trying to disentangle it. And besides number of targets and number of bad guys and amount of news coverage, there's also efficacy; technical advances being what they are, no doubt every a smaller number of bad guys are able to do a larger number of bad things per unit time and per target, and probably security is similarly improving in an arms-race kind of way. Clearly we're nowhere near an endpoint but I'm wondering where we are on those four curves -- soon to be six or ten, I suspect, since everyone keeps thinking of more.
And yet I don't see any articles that actually tackle that issue, not even in the more highly technical media. Seems like a missed opportunity for some publication somewhere ...
dlr5288
10/31/2017 7:02:54 PM
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Re: Visibility & Vulnerability
You’re right. The Cloud definitely changes the game. It does bring about a lot of positive changes, but the security on the Cloud is such a huge risk to many people and businesses.
dcawrey
10/31/2017 3:44:22 PM
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Re: Visibility & Vulnerability
You can't deny cloud is a game changer. But I think deployment models have changed quite a bit since its advent. At this point, it is important to take into account concepts like hybrid and private cloud. These are way more secure if you ask me.
dlr5288
10/31/2017 1:45:21 PM
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Re: Visibility & Vulnerability
Well said. I think AT&T not only bring a great service to their customers, but they always seem to have room to grow. In a positive way. They’re always trying something new and different, and even if it does fail, at least they’re trying.
Ariella
10/31/2017 10:21:39 AM
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Re: Point of Statistical Order
<By analogy to physical security: if you are a lock manufacturer, and you are making more every year, that might be because there are more burglars (i.e. more threats) or it might be because there are more buildings (i.e. more doors and windows).
I was just realizing that we see the increasing expenditures on security figures all the time, but it's not clear what the mixture is of new places that need security or of added security threats to existing places. Has anyone seen anything that tries to disentangle those issues?>
@JohnBarnes Good question, the figures don't reveal if the spend is additional to existing, though likely at least part of it is. I got the impression that it is rather like people's natural response to hearing about a fire that caused major damage. They would check on their smoke alarms, likely buy new ones, and perhaps even (as I did once myself) buy additional fire safety items like an extinguisher and a blanket to put out kitchen fires.
Of course, there are other factors at play, as well, including new regulations. But reactions ot breaches are noted in articles like this one: http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/high-profile-breaches-drive-data-security-spending-75b-0
Re: Visibility & Vulnerability
@vnewman:
Absolutely, AT&T is trying to push themselves into security space. You are spot on about saying they have infrastructure and resource. They must also have good amount of expertise from their own security models. So it wouldn't surprise me to see new moves by AT&T into this space in near future.
vnewman
10/30/2017 11:10:08 PM
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Re: Point of Statistical Order
@JohnBarnes - just to add to your speculation, it could also be the mere perception of increasing numbers of threats and hyper-awareness of the issue because of the high-profile cases of late. In one word: Panic
To liken it to the physical world - there’s been a string of burglaries and thefts, let’s put up gates, buy cameras, post signs, install alarms, start a neighborhood watch etc etc.
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