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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2018 8:13:54 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
That would be very cool to see. I wonder how long into the future there will be a time when we see cars driving by themselves. It’s an awesome thought.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/24/2018 7:24:07 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
Freehe, As Kishore rightly pointed out a while ago, it is looking like the big money in 5G will probably be in biz and tech at first, with consumer use developing in areas that acquire 5G early, as an add-on opportunity. The challenge business faces is that they will want to spread the cost to consumers ASAP — before those must-have consumer apps really exist.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/23/2018 11:13:04 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@mhhfive: Sorry, I don't hear you. There are two aspects about 5G as far as infrastructure is concerned. One is that it gets deeper into the edge so that it is able to address specific consumer needs and a wider range of them. Hence, the plans for a huge upgrade in the radio network and its virtualization for the very first time. Then you have the sheer volumes of data, latency, and bandwidth. 4G does not come close to doing either of those. And hence the need to invest in the fiber optic network. On the software side, it will be microservices to meet the need for a very wide range of applications.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:11:23 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@vnewman. I can see why 5G would be needed. There will more a large amount of data that is needed in self-driving cars. Given there are over 220 million drivers in the U.S. that is a lot of data that need to be processed quickly.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:09:12 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@Kishore Jethanandani, Thanks for the explanation. I was also wondering how 5G will provide benefits that 4G cannot. I suspect that 5G will help further AI, VR and machine learning development that may not be available with 4G.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:03:53 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@JohnBarnes. Good points. I can only see 5G needed during major sporting events like the Olympics, and World Soccer event. I definitely want more speed but don't have a specific need for 5G right now. 

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vnewman
vnewman
1/11/2018 4:12:48 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
I do see your point - I do think that the players in the driverless car game envision the type of integration and speed of information transfer made possible by 5G.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/11/2018 12:59:00 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
> "the necessity of 5G for driverless cars..."

The vehicle-to-infrastructure model for autonomous cars has been in the works for decades (because researchers previously didn't think that the computational capacity to handle autonomous driving could be contained aboard a car...), and for true "level 5" autonomy -- it might be necessary for AVs to have a wireless connection to its environment for maximal safety. 

I'm not so sure 5G is "necessary" for autonomous cars, but it may be a "nice to have" in order to get traffic optimized fully. I think that AVs might exist before 5G infrastructure is fully implemented.... 

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vnewman
vnewman
1/10/2018 11:56:56 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
I was actually just reading about this recently. Although I can't remember the source, the article pointed to the necessity of 5G for driverless cars. Although initially the vehicles will be self contained, the need for cars to communicate with each other and their surroundings will be enabled through 5G.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/10/2018 8:47:07 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@mhhfive: Some versions of telehealth already exist but that typically requires patients to come to clinics. Works for rural areas. But if you have to do it, let us say, for a retirement colony close to a metropolitan area with a full suite of services, you are talking something quite different. 

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