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clrmoney
clrmoney
1/5/2018 10:35:20 AM
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5G to the Edge
I think we are already making progress with the offers that they have to offer I love the idea of using the 5G for products or services for businesses but I'm sure there will be more to from this in the near future.

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Shaunn
Shaunn
1/5/2018 5:17:46 PM
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Taking 5G to the Edge
Everything is in place for 5G to take the place of 4G except for the tools to put it in place. Sounds like it's only a matter of time before the right tools have been gathered and deployed.

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afwriter
afwriter
1/8/2018 4:46:51 PM
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Re: Taking 5G to the Edge
@Shaunn it sounds like there are going to be some growing pains, but for the most part,  5G deployment is picking up the pace. With the posturing and competition that is going on in the industry, I would not be surprised if we saw functional 5G deployment slightly sooner than predicted (whether it is ready or not) just because the telcos want to get out ahead of everyone else. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/9/2018 1:51:38 PM
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Chicken or the egg problems...?
> "We will need to invest enough on the 5G infrastructure so that customers buy 5G devices and services while simultaneously maintaining the 4G infrastructure."

I've seen some complaints that 5G devices for consumers don't exist -- and won't -- before 5G infrastructure rolls out, so the burden falls on service providers to invest *before* consumers do.... 

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/10/2018 2:37:59 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
mhhf1ve,

Sounds like we are once again on the quest for the killer app (or killer app system or even the killer cloud); there has to be something people will really want that can be done in 5G and con't be done in 4G.   I really don't know what that would be, just yet.  Maybe streaming VR that is fully interactive in real time? Cloud based optimized assistants (like super-Siris or super-Alexas that can draw on the experience of millions of people and simultaneously fold it into the known eccentricities of particular users, in real time -- "Google, I have never felt this way before. Find me a work of art that will help me articulate my feelings" -- ? Individual budget satisfaction optimizers?  

Whatever it is, if it can be cheaply copied into 4G it will be immediately, so it has to be something that actually needs those huge fast data flows and quick-response processing to do its job at all.  Till that comes along, 5G is apt to be a rather limited in scope supertoy.  

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
1/10/2018 2:38:01 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
mhhf1ve,

Sounds like we are once again on the quest for the killer app (or killer app system or even the killer cloud); there has to be something people will really want that can be done in 5G and con't be done in 4G.   I really don't know what that would be, just yet.  Maybe streaming VR that is fully interactive in real time? Cloud based optimized assistants (like super-Siris or super-Alexas that can draw on the experience of millions of people and simultaneously fold it into the known eccentricities of particular users, in real time -- "Google, I have never felt this way before. Find me a work of art that will help me articulate my feelings" -- ? Individual budget satisfaction optimizers?  

Whatever it is, if it can be cheaply copied into 4G it will be immediately, so it has to be something that actually needs those huge fast data flows and quick-response processing to do its job at all.  Till that comes along, 5G is apt to be a rather limited in scope supertoy.  

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/10/2018 3:52:44 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@JohnBarnes: We are talking about a distinct class of use cases not good-to-have google assistants blabbering about art.One type is massive machine type communications which is something like telehealth which can monitor thousands of remote patients. Or collaborative robotics. Nothing that 4G can accomplish. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/10/2018 3:55:11 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
Quite correct. I don't see 4K video streaming as the driver for mobile 5G broadband speeds. But perhaps streaming AR/VR has a chance? Personally, I think most people would prefer to have a consistent decent speed (e.g. 8Mbps or so) instead of having spotty signal in some places. "Can you hear me now?" should apply to "broadband" wireless signals, too.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/10/2018 7:58:08 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
> "...telehealth which can monitor thousands of remote patients. Or collaborative robotics. Nothing that 4G can accomplish."

@kishore -- hmm. could you explain further why 4G is unable to accomplish some of these tasks? I know teleheath can require data speeds that aren't available with 4G, but we should at least be able to see some versions of these technologies, no?  

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
1/10/2018 8:47:07 PM
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Re: Chicken or the egg problems...?
@mhhfive: Some versions of telehealth already exist but that typically requires patients to come to clinics. Works for rural areas. But if you have to do it, let us say, for a retirement colony close to a metropolitan area with a full suite of services, you are talking something quite different. 

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