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elizabethv
elizabethv
10/16/2016 4:40:23 AM
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Re: So confused...
Haha, I suppose some people can be overbearing. Maybe it would depend on the person and how annoying they were about it..... But seriously, have you seen The Wire? (I definitely have not. Lol.)

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
10/15/2016 3:24:14 PM
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Re: Spoilers
Joe,

Even the most diverse theatres and literatures of the past had no more than about 20 stories that accounted for the overwhelming majority of what they produced. But the reduction from about 12-15 to about 3 is still a large loss -- especially since I think it mainly reflects concentrating far too much on the emotional/esthetic needs and values of adolescents to the exclusion of other people (both younger and older). Unfortunately, as i say too often, the ideal consumer for our economic structure is a fifteen year old with no credit limit (meaning no impulse control, overvaluing peer opinion, preferring just-this-moment stuff, and having sixty years to be chained to paying it all off...). All the popular arts have come to be focused to appeal to teens with money -- even if the teens are actually 45 year olds in their second marriages and third careers.

Nowadays you have a real hard time financing a movie that says "Grow Where You Are Planted and Appreciate What You Have Achieved" like It's a Wonderful Life, Penny Serenade, Pete and Tillie, or probably even Mr. Holland's Opus.  People are supposed to perpetually reinvent and recreate, shedding commitments like snakeskins.  You can't easily sell a movie in which the central characters have to accept that their feelings don't matter as much as bigger things in the world around them, especially not if that's the main value (High Noon, Casablanca, Camelot, The Wages of Fear).

And that, to mix some major metaphors, is a shrinkage of what kind of material our culture can process and what the outcome of the process can be. In a sense, it's the culture as a whole getting dumber.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:37:42 PM
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Re: So confused...
@elizabethv: Maybe so you can cut short those people nagging you that you HAVE to watch The Wire?  ;)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:36:48 PM
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Re: Spoilers
@John: While the reduction of types in terms of what's coming out of Hollywood these days may be unfortunate, the limit in and reptition of types of plots is hardly a TV-age phenomenon.  We get almost everything from the days of the Renaissance and earlier, and character types can be tied back to the Commedia Dell'Arte.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:34:48 PM
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Re: Spoilers
@John: I think your wife has the right idea.  Binge-watching after the fact = not waiting in edgy, irritated anticipation for the next show.

I <3 TV, myself.  Good TV, anyway.  But I do watch less of it than I used to now that everything is on demand.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/14/2016 9:20:49 AM
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Re: Why people lie about watching TV shows...
@John: Nate Silver talked about this effect some years ago and its impact on political polling.  I forget the exact term he used, but I believe it was along the lines of the "genteel southerner effect".  The idea is that the respondent -- who perceives his or her views to be in the minority and perhaps offensive to some -- answers in what he or she believes to be a more socially acceptable way (thus skewing the polls).

(Also known as, as I'm sure you're aware, as "the spiral of silence".)



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elizabethv
elizabethv
10/14/2016 8:43:57 AM
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So confused...
I mean, yeah, I know people lie. But I had no idea people lie about seeing TV shows. Why is this a big deal? I guess I was never one to try hard to fit in with the group. But how do you fake having seen a TV show? Unless you go and read the wiki on the TV show right after saying you saw it. Sounds like a waste of time to me..... 

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batye
batye
10/13/2016 12:43:40 PM
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Re: 409 scripted TV shows...
@mhhf1ve interesting point... in my mind everything is scripted this days on tv... even most of the "live" shows :) - how I see it...

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batye
batye
10/13/2016 12:40:46 PM
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Re: Why people lie about watching TV shows...
@mhhf1ve interesting point... but to each his own I'm still using old non-smart nokia phone with great battery life :) 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
10/12/2016 7:26:05 AM
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Re: Why people lie about watching TV shows...
mhhf1ve,

Used to be if you asked people what magazines they read, Harpers, the Atlantic, and Saturday Review all beat out TV Guide, Readers Digest, and the National Enquirer, but the sales told a different story. Nowadays people spend hours keeping up with the Kardashians but talking about the latest HBO high-profile scripted series.

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