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DHagar
8/12/2016 8:21:37 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@Mike, great insight and analysis. I agree that there are potholes and that we are making "incremental" progress but stopping short of true transformation to new solutions that fully integrate development and operations. It is as if we are still developing with the same designs and wanting a different result.
You have identified one key barrier, the culture. The other is the "new learning" that has to take place to truly integrate the knowledge in both and design a true DevOps solution - which is more optimal.
I think this also confirms that we are still deploying technology from a sole capability standpoint, and missing the opportunity to deliver new solutions - that can only take place through true DevOps. We want to swim the ocean without leaving shore.
mpouraryan
8/15/2016 4:59:26 AM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
Isn't that what, in fact, Transformation is supposed to be? We have to risk--but it appears that the Poll indicates otherwise.
DHagar
8/15/2016 1:01:17 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, well there you go - exactly! We want new benefits and new opportunities without risk - so we are holding on to the limits of what already exists.
The leaders will be those who truly create the future!
mpouraryan
8/15/2016 7:36:10 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
We seem to be "stuck" in neutral, though. There lies the challenge right now. How do we sustain the revolutionary spirit that began it all?
DHagar
8/15/2016 8:00:51 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, good thoughts - that's where leading companies and visionaries come in! As with anything, you have 1/3 that will be leaders, 1/3 that will join the leaders, and 1/3 that will lag and have to be convinced.
So I believe the leaders will, and are, learning the new opportunities and will transform the processes. The others will follow and/or lag.
mpouraryan
8/15/2016 11:38:04 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
The challenge is to find the next visionary--which is not easy--is it?
DHagar
8/16/2016 1:45:03 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, true. I think they are finding us in that there is an impressive community with Telco Transformation and the companies that are leading the way (i.e., Huawei, AT&T, Cisco, etc.). So we are in good company!
And good bloggers!
mpouraryan
8/16/2016 2:12:18 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
No doubt--as long as the 'majors" do not stifle creativity. That's the danger before us.
DHagar
8/16/2016 2:15:43 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, we will all stick together - there are too many of us!
batye
9/5/2016 11:00:33 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@DHagar good point - could not agree more... could not agree more...
batye
9/5/2016 10:59:05 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan it all depends how you see it... I try to see everything in positive light :)
mpouraryan
9/5/2016 11:20:29 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
Welcome to September!!
The key is indeed to be optimistic--there is no other way.
We have some excitement before us this week too--with Apple having the major announcement that I wonder how it will impact all!!
:)
DHagar
9/6/2016 4:35:13 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, there you go! Great September!
And yes, let's see what Apple unveils and advances this week!
Great minds will overcome the barriers.
DHagar
9/6/2016 8:27:23 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, good info. Thanks for sharing!
mpouraryan
9/7/2016 12:25:13 AM
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A pleasure M'aam--let's see what "ace" these guys have up their sleeve. Always fun to be witness to history :)
Wishin' all a fabulous Wednesday.
mpouraryan
9/7/2016 12:27:30 AM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
..sorry to be a bother..one more bit of a "newsflash" that just crossed my desk from "the land down under"....as we await "zero hour" from Apple:
Apple wants to reinvent the iPhone with a totally cordless, portless design. But they have to get you used to the idea first.
batye
9/7/2016 10:50:37 AM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan thanks for the info interesting to know... what Apple thinking??? who knows ???
Re: DevOps Potholes
Watching the Apple Event right now--As I am also seeing the creator of "Mario" noting how "Super Mario Run" is now available on iOS....let's see what is in in "Store"......and whether things will be truly "Transformational" or not.
batye
9/7/2016 1:24:32 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan thanks for the update - interesting to know :) I'm Mario fan :) from Famicon days :)
Re: DevOps Potholes
..and as I am continuing to be "virtually attending it" while at my office at @DailyOutsider, the rumors are now official: iPhone 7 is out....with all the refinements with the gentle voice of Jon Ivy.......with its' high gloss black finish...and a reminder that over a billion iphones are in our World :) :)
Ariella
9/7/2016 2:22:18 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan my Twitter feed is filled with Apple news. I saw that the additional black is just identified as black. This indicates they likely have no women on the product development who are used to all sorts of names for colors from fashion, makeup, and paint names.
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Although it is fun to "virtually attend it", it is not as "earth shattering"..although the camera is cool--and although they claim that Digital SLR..... in addition to the stuff on Audio...as it is now official: they've removed it the "jack"...and they're saying, it is "courage"..and they're saying they want to deliver it all in a seamless "wireless' experience....
I guess no more selfie sticks...as they're showing us Apple "Air Pods"....cool design.... :) :)
Still for us "techies"..it is fun to be witness to it....
Ariella
9/7/2016 2:32:00 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan I saw the jack reference and thought patting themselves on the back for that with the word "courage" is the ultimate in pretentious hubris.
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Here is the thing: They've got to--because part of trying to sustain their momentum is to "talk things up"...the proof will be in the "numbers".....
Ariella
9/7/2016 2:37:01 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpourayran yeah, well, I'm more impressed by people who deliver more than they promise rather than those who claim to be doing big things when they're only changing a port on a phone.
DHagar
9/7/2016 2:30:44 PM
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@Ariella, there you go! At least they could call it "slate" or "midnight"!
Ariella
9/7/2016 2:39:30 PM
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@Dhagar oh, yes, so many names for black. Also sable, jet, coal, ink, carbon, noir, etc.
DHagar
9/7/2016 2:42:20 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@Ariella, oh, those are good! You get my vote!
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Since we're talking transformation--the folks in the Apple Ecosystem will have some "rethinking to do"--for instance, one company is OlloClip that will have a challenge to be "around"--32 Gb/128 Gb/256 GB sizes...at $ 649 for the base model.....
Anyway, as I said, proof in the numbers!!!!
DHagar
9/7/2016 3:33:42 PM
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@mpouraryan, indeed! That will prove how well thought out and artful this design and transformation is. Disruptive is OK if it creates something else.
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Based on the reporting I saw (and we talked numbers) Stock was down .3 percent....let's see what tomorrow brings. It is becoming, frankly, tougher-isn't it?
DHagar
9/7/2016 4:35:16 PM
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Re: DevOps Potholes
@mpouraryan, yes, you cannot create miracles on a daily basis!
They view the extraordinary as the bar for the next level of performance.
Re: DevOps Potholes
Here is the bigger question that I hope all with TT have a chance to reflect upon: Why we are so impatient? Why are we so not impressed? I also underscore this because a recent story on Netflix (something we deliberated last month) asked the question about the kind of company it wants to be--it seems as if keeping people excited about it.....
DHagar
9/7/2016 5:10:29 PM
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@mpouraryan, now you are thinking! (many don't like to do that!)
That's the real separation in leadership with those who truly lead transformations, they are willing to build new results. Others prefer to quickest path to results. Real leadership makes a difference in the long run.
mpouraryan
9/7/2016 11:49:12 PM
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Then how do we create that "culture" so that they will not be beholden per se to Wall Street and the VC Community? How do we elevate it whereby all think for the long-term?
Re: DevOps Potholes
..For me, Two very cool things are being talked about right now: On ConnectED along with iWork--which is what made Apple, Apple--With their commitment to Education--the ultimate Transformation Agent!!
DHagar
9/7/2016 2:28:58 PM
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@mpouraryan, I am with you on the ConnectED and iWork - kudos to Apple!
DHagar
9/7/2016 2:23:31 PM
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@mpouraryan, excellent tip - I will remember where I heard this prediction first!
clrmoney
8/13/2016 10:59:06 AM
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Devops
Devops has a lot to offer like mobile video data etc. So I'm not surprised they are in the lead.
burgundy
8/13/2016 2:28:56 PM
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convergence
in voice and video is possible .. see cloud providers. in fact more interesting is the IT convgence in storage, compute, ...
JohnBarnes
8/13/2016 7:49:09 PM
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Reflogging my favorite horse
Because I'm really not totally sure he's dead yet ...
A model very like DevOps is already there in some of the contemporary data-science oriented programming languages, most notably R. If I've got a gigantic database, and R and the skills for it (and a machine fast and capacious enough), you can ask almost anything and if the answer is latent in the database, I can hand type a sequence of commands, executing each as I go, and get you that one-time answer. If you ask me the same question several times in a row, I can go back to my recordings of my process, paste directly from the recordings into an executable file, and voila! program.
Or in short, all the work I did on the one-off version (which is ops) is immediately transferable to the now-to-be-standard-forever app (which is dev).
It should be added that this works brilliantly in practice.
DevOps is just the rest of the industry catching up with data analytic software ... another case of a good trick that proves extremely contagious.
DHagar
8/15/2016 12:57:51 PM
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Re: Reflogging my favorite horse
@JohnBarnes, data analytics software has truly opened up new opportunities for DevOps. I believe we haven't even scratched the surface on the what can now be accomplished.
As always, well stated!
JohnBarnes
8/15/2016 2:45:18 PM
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Re: Reflogging my favorite horse
DMHagar,
In many ways it is just AI getting more human; instead of a human figuring out the whole task and coding it, the machine just records and copies what the people do until it can do the job by itself. Less and less like programming a machine and more and more like training an apprentice.
DHagar
8/15/2016 4:05:50 PM
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Re: Reflogging my favorite horse
@JohnBarnes, the advancements in machine learning will also open up the door to new users; like the PC opened the door to new users of computers - beyond the previous use dependent on mainframes.
Which makes us wonder how far the machine intelligence/human intelligence can advance us?
mhhf1ve
8/15/2016 3:39:16 PM
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Accenture blog nails it.
> "... Sustainability is key. Too many "dish of the day" methodologies come and go, failing to deliver promised value simply because they are mandated by leadership without understanding how they are embedded into the fabric of "how things are done here"—the culture. ...."
The culture of the organization will trump all. If there's not a tipping point of "devops" people, the fad will come and go -- and revert back to whatever worked "good enough" in the past.
DHagar
8/15/2016 4:10:27 PM
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Re: Accenture blog nails it.
@mhhf1ve - that is the key! If it does not deliver value across the board to the users, it will only be a fad. True change will only come from sustainability.
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