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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/10/2016 7:33:19 AM
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Using an even naughtier word than John Oliver did ...
"Theory."

Could it reasonably be expected that there would be multiple digital divides in any country that has any digital presence at all?

Well, we happen to know that pretty much every demographic group -- ethnic, religious, gender, economic, etc etc etc -- has different personal interests, different economic self-interest, different disposable income, different priorities, even more etcs -- from the others. Since all of those affect adoption of new tech, guess what?

Some populations get digital somethings earlier and faster than others. Rich faster than poor and urban faster than rural are unsurprising due to obvious constraints, but nearly every nation will have large "digital divides", some widening and some narrowing, until the day when the world is one big network.

The empirical result is only a surprise if you've never, ever even remotely thought about what the outcome is almost certain to be -- i.e. applied a little theory before you start.

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Ariella
Ariella
5/9/2016 9:23:52 PM
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Re: digital myth
@mhhf1ve I agree. Actually, as polls go, this one was relatively large, topping 14K. I've seen many draw conclusions on the basis of just a couple of hundred responses, and sometimes even on the basis of under a hundred.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2016 6:52:33 PM
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Re: digital myth
Misinterpreted scientific studies are pretty much everywhere.. but I think this study is not really meant to be "scientific" as much as just a survey/poll with statistically sigificant conclusions. It's not quite the same level of rigor to conduct a poll of a well-defined population and make sure the conclusions are self-consistent as it is to perform a test of a hypothesis.... I suppose the hypothesis here would be the "myth" -- but truly scientific, social-economic surveys should probably include more randomized selection.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2016 6:46:32 PM
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Re: What is the myth?
> "the divide and "income inequality" can be translated into the same terms as you imagine: wealtheir (urban) vs poorer (rural)."

Yes, I think the Swiss "digital divide" must be a bit different that the US version. The US version often means "no access at all" (or very very limited internet access) in the rural or poor areas. I think the Swiss are comparing rural with urban areas -- and there may not be as much of a wealth/poverty gap as the US has.

The US version of the digital divide isn't necessarily about geographic regions, but I guess that's not the case in other countries....

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vnewman
vnewman
5/9/2016 6:19:31 PM
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Re: What is the myth?
I think - and I could be wrong as I've been wrong before - that the divide and "income inequality" can be translated into the same terms as you imagine: wealtheir (urban) vs poorer (rural).

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faryl
faryl
5/9/2016 4:53:54 PM
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Re: digital myth
Your comment reminds me of last night's episode of John Oliver:

(some of it may be NSFW)

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Scientific Studies

(not sure if I can embed it here, but will give it a shot)

 


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faryl
faryl
5/9/2016 4:52:30 PM
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Re: What is the myth?
I was wondering the same thing.

I guess either there was an existing myth within Switzerland that they have some sort of digital divide, and they just debunked it; or this study was addressing the concept of the digital divide that exists in many (most?) nations and extrapolated data specific to their country to debunk it?

It seems that the digital divide in the US is certainly not a myth.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
5/9/2016 3:21:47 PM
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digital myth
I don't understand saying that digital is a myth when almost everthing we do online virtual so anybody can make up a study and people believe it. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2016 3:11:08 PM
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The Swiss...
The Swiss population, according to this survey, seems to be more digitally homogeneous than originally thought. I suppose that's a good thing, but not entirely unsurprising, either. As more and more generations get connected to the internet, it would stand to reason that the population of people doing stuff "online" would grow and ultimately take over such that very few people (who have internet access) would choose to stay off the internet for routine activities that can be done, sometimes more efficiently, online.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2016 3:07:36 PM
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What is the myth?
I thought the "digital divide" was about income inequality..? Where poor neighborhoods have lower access to the internet than wealthier neighborhoods... But maybe that's not the digital divide that Switzerland is dealing with? Or maybe there are more definitions of the "digital divide" around the world... and different possible myths about the divides.

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