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Ariella
Ariella
4/14/2016 3:35:09 PM
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Re: Being invisible offline
@elizabethv yes, it's nice to have it available for keeping up with relatives in other states, coountries, even continents. I have cousins scattered in many different time zones.

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vnewman
vnewman
4/15/2016 12:33:06 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
I guess you had to be there but I'm definitely not bowled over by this feature. Can I use the bots to send things to my real friends? Because my fb friends aren't really my friends anyway :)

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faryl
faryl
4/15/2016 1:29:29 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
@vnewman I'm not a fan of the feature either. Unless they can be used to send gifts to Facebook friends, as you suggest.....not so I can send any though; I just support any idea that could potentially result in someone sending me chocolate :)

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 7:54:39 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
faryl, unfortunately, there is definitely such a thing as a "reverse Turing effect" in which real-people interactions become more mechanical, predictable, and coded, and so the solution to chatbots that are not particularly helpful is only sometimes going to be chatbots that are actually more helpful.  A large part of it, I'm afraid, will be redefining what chatbots do as "help."

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 7:58:54 AM
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Re: Forced Popularity
Creating needs that don't currently exist is a large part of what our industry does. Some of those are pretty wonderful. Some are simply creating automated media to destroy middle-people jobs (media and middle, after all, mean the same thing at the root; it's just that we now use one to refer to what machines do and define that as choice, convenience, and freedom, and the other to define what people do and define it as waste, hassle, and inefficiency). Most are just One More Thing, to be swept away in the storm of the Next Thing.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/15/2016 8:04:56 AM
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Re: Being invisible offline
I'm not a great enthusiast for social media; as far as I can see it mostly enables my spouse to stay in touch with the sort of casual acquaintance that I prefer to have drift out of my life and become, someday, "Whatever became of old whatsisname?"  Sort of like having a storage unit you can't empty.  Contrariwise, I like having a small group of actual friends with whom I trade one or two letters a year, because we both pay attention to the letters, instead of treating it as background noise.

So for social media, I stick to Twitter, where most of the time everything is gone quickly.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/15/2016 8:31:41 AM
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Re: Do people really want this?
@faryl.... That's certainly an interesting interpretation of what the desired outcome might be for something like this. Force us to seek out more human contact. Though even calling 1-800 numbers anymore tends to lead to lots of time spent not actually speaking to a human. If this is what it takes to get us to speak to humans anymore, as a species, we might be doomed. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/15/2016 8:37:56 AM
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Re: Being invisible offline
@JohnBarnes I suppose it's a "to each their own" type situation. I pay pretty good attention to the people on my Facebook. You aren't on my list of friends if I don't actually know who you are - I don't even do the "friend of a friend" thing. And I want to know how you're doing, what your life is like, your kids names and what they're up to. This worked out so well for me that I was at a Renaissance Festival one year, walked out of the bathroom and saw two small familiar faces in a stroller in front of me. I'd never actually met my friends children, but I had seen them in pictures often enough that when I saw them in person, I knew who they were immediately. I approached their dad, and asked where my friend from high school was. She was in the bathroom too. I waited for her to come out, and our families decided to spend the day together. If it hadn't been for the pictures, I likely would have never recognized her kids. Never spent the day together. And now, we are much better friends than we had been even before that day at the Renaissance Festival. We live in different states now, but I never visit Arizona without seeing her anymore. And we communicate off Facebook on a regular basis. None of that would have ever happened, without Facebook. 

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Ariella
Ariella
4/15/2016 9:30:32 AM
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Re: Being invisible offline
@JohnBarnes I don't really use Twitter to keep in contact with people but  to get updates on news. Very rarely, I'll have an exchange of DMs there. My favorite channel for conversations was G+, but it has petered out somewhat in the past couple of years. Some of the connections I had there stopped usingit. I don't like the high school mentality that still prevails in FB, but I just go through updates quickly and once in a while find something interesting or worth commenting on. 

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Michelle
Michelle
4/15/2016 11:49:13 AM
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Re: Being invisible offline
@Ariella that sounds very similar to my social media habits. I connect on Twitter and use DM occasionally. I feel the same way about G+. It was really great when people used it more often. Now, I only go to see what a handful of people are posting and read things from a community. I feel caught up if I visit once every few weeks...

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