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vnewman
vnewman
4/15/2016 12:13:47 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
For the life of my I couldn't come up with any other shows besdies House of Cards and Orange in the New Black that I knew to be a Netflix original content.  So of course I looked it up.  "Sense8," "Bloodline," "Marco Polo," "BoJack Horseman," "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt..." I've never heard of any of these before.  But you know who has?  My 18 year-old niece, who is way cooler than me apparently.  And that's what Netflix is doing right.  $9 a month for Netflix vs $15 for HBO Go.  Netflix has real depth, and though some would say HBO has better quality, I'd argue the majority people who stream videos are looking for more options at a lower cost.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/15/2016 9:06:25 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
@vnewman, I think you hit the nail on the head!  I am with you in the "uncool" range.  But they are a key source for the younger set!

Netflix has an excellent focus, right pricing, and good content - they are on a roll!

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/16/2016 12:29:53 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
Marco Polo is decent, but it's clearly Netflix trying to capitalize on the fascination with Game of Thrones.  Plus there are a lot of historical inaccuracies, and they haven't had a second season in quite some time now.

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is okay but the sense of humor is a little too Tina Fey-ey for my taste.

House of Cards is great (I *finally* started watching it about a month or so ago)...but it jumps the shark a little bit in Season 3.

Haven't seen the others (except I watched Season 1 of Lilyhammer and it was OK... just Steven Van Zandt being typecast) and I really have no interest in them, short of one or two comedy specials.  (Emphasis on ONE OR TWO.  Netflix, stop pushing every original comedy special from every two-bit hack who's had 15 minutes of fame, please!)

Netflix certainly has quantity, but Game of Thrones alone makes HBO more valuable than Netflix IMHO (not to mention Silicon Valley, plus old shows like The Sopranos and Big Love for those who missed them the first time around).  I'm thinking of canceling Netflix and sticking w/ HBO.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/16/2016 12:30:58 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
@DHagar: Their prices are on the rise again, though.  At some point, it's probably cheaper to just buy the DVDs of the stuff you like and stop paying the monthly fee.  Especially now that they no longer care one iota about analyzing your preferences and recommending stuff that you'll actually like, like they used to.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/16/2016 12:33:00 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
@elizabethv: I dunno.  For me, paying for HBO just for Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley (I also like that one, and highly recommend it -- especially to people in the tech sector like us) is a better value than paying Netflix for a bunch of sub-mediocre content that I don't care about plus access to a few shows with rewatchability that I could just get the DVDs for.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/16/2016 12:34:33 PM
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Re: Overstatisticianization
@Brian: Indeed, the emphasis in the study was on media streaming.

I suspect many HBO fans still prefer to watch their content in the traditional, on-the-TV via old-fashioned cable way.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/16/2016 7:37:46 PM
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room for competition...
If Netflix can build up original content and start winning awards for its shows, then it looks like we're going to get more and more wannabes who will try, too. So I expect a "boom" in original content, but also a "boom" in mediocre shows that wouldn't normally make it beyond a pilot. 

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Ariella
Ariella
4/16/2016 9:59:26 PM
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Re: room for competition...
@mhhf1ve I'm certain you're right about that. When a strategy appears to be successful, others follow it, though often not quite as well. There's a famous folk tale about it that goes like this:

A poor man was once walking the streets, when he was struck by a delicious aroma. From out of the kitchen window of a huge mansion wafted the smells of a rich man's meal of blintzes.. Looking through the window, he watched carefully as the cook mixed the ingredients and prepared a pile of cheese blintzes. 

He ran home and told his wife, "We must have some delicious cheese blintzes. T. Can you make me some? All we need is French pancake mix, milk and eggs, some butter to fry them in, and cheese for the filling."

His wife agreed, though when she looked into her pantry for the ingredients, she found that she didn't have them. "We'll have to be a bit creative about substitutions," she thought. "I haven't got any French pancake mix, but a little potato flour should be just as good. We are a little low on milk. I'll just use water. We certainly can't afford butter for frying, but I have some old oil that I used last week; I am sure it can be used again. And cheese costs a fortune these days. We will have to settle for some mashed potatoes instead of cheese—that will be close enough."

She prepared the "blintzes" in that way and presented them to her husband. He took a bite and then declared, "I don't really get what those rich people see in blintzes. They aren't that good."

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/16/2016 11:15:53 PM
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Re: room for competition...
Don't assume that the best shows always got made and the worst always died, or that there is more than a wobbly relationship between the "propensity for greenlight" bell curve and the "overall quality" bell curve. The great creative periods in pop culture are mostly the ones with low entry barriers, in which there is a huge variety of content and the audience gradually sorts it out; dead periods tend to be the ones governed by Price's Law ("if losing a customer costs more than gaining a customer pays, innovation and novelty decline to zero") because of high entry barriers.  

Dilution by spreading across too many franchises happens in sports, because you can rank players pretty precisely and the poor franchises don't have enough talent to supply interesting play.  But in literature and the performing arts, that ain't dilution, that's the blue ocean.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/18/2016 11:28:30 AM
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netflix in the league
I think that netflix is taking over alomost everything so they will be competition for HBO will be a challenge.

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