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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/14/2017 2:37:40 PM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
I think another large component in the inflated CEO salaries and the general worship of "leadership", "vision", and "ideals" is simply whistling in the dark as it becomes clearer and clearer that none of those matter very much.  It is much more than just a curiosity that machines get better and better all the time at beating people at human games -- including the serious discussions now happening at gaming companies because non-player-characters are now beginning to be better at human relations than player-characters (think about the implications of that for a while...); it is more than just a stray observation that sizable numbers of younger students are beginnning to prefer computer instruction to live one-on-one tutoring specifically because they feel that the machine understands them better; and if you consider the pretty safe prediction that once self-driving cars are widespread, we will need to phase out human drivers for safety's sake and line that up with a seventy-year trend to force corporations to demonstrate that they are acting in the best interests of shareholders; finally add to all that the success of anti-interpretability in machine learning ... and figure that in a generation, if corporations need a white-haired old poop in a blue suit to stand up front of a camera and proclaim that they have a vision for the next century, the old poop (like the vision) can be generated by the algorithm that runs the company.

The generation of CEOs that will retire in the 2020s are already feeling the icy wind of replacement by automation; hence the ever more strident thumping of the "vision" stuff.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/14/2017 11:14:41 AM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
@afwriter Right. There are so many layers. I'm not saying there are not some great corporations out there that really want to do right by their employees, listen to their ideas and genuninely care.  I worked at a major technology media company run by philanthropists. When they sold the company, they gave everyone a cut of the deal. After they left, it was just a matter of time before we all became just a number. With all the layoffs, there is little that remains of it due to major layoffs and cutbacks.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/14/2017 11:04:35 AM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
I love that show too. In a part-time job that I work the district manager has a get together twice a year to air out any complaints and toss around ideas. The problem is that he has a boss that reports to a boss that reports to a CEO so it is rare that any of our ideas get run that far up the flag pole.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/13/2017 10:24:14 PM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
@afwriter That's why corporations should listen more carefully to the employees instead of putting that huge wall between them. You can work at a company and these executives think they are too good to talk to you, or say a simple hello. They have inflated egos. How can you make good decisions if that's the way you run the corporation?

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/13/2017 10:20:57 PM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
@JohnBarnes  Many of these CEOs with the inflated salaries are narcissists who are afraid to give up any of their "power." Sometimes a great idea can come from a mere underling at a company, but few CEOs are rarely in touch with the rank-and-file workers. It's why I love that reality show "Undercover Boss" so much. These CEOs who started corporations get most of their best ideas because they made it a point to go and find out what their employees really do, and then reward the good workers. 

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batye
batye
12/13/2017 2:53:32 AM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
@JohnBarnes interesting point and then I think about it I could not agree more... as it important to know and see it right and do it right... as this days too much lip service... instead of real things... 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/11/2017 2:56:20 PM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
A word for muddling through:

"Vision" still seems to me to be mostly a flattering excuse for the grotesque inflation of CEO salaries relative to the value they actually produce.  Many large organizations, corporate and non-, have simply stumbled forward until they were the last one standing, in all the previous economic and political revolutions.  And many wise and thoughtful plans have unfortunately led into dead ends (typically because circumstances changed and the plan couldn't be changed).  The real lesson, I think, is not that we need the correct god-like vision of the future delivered from the visionary CEO who then makes it happen; we need a constant willingness to improvise at every level, including the willingness to shift resources toward unexpected successes that don't fit the vision at all. 

(If I could create a business book that could somehow be forced into best-sellerdom, for the purpose of benefiting the economy generally, it would have a title like "Stop Leading, Start Thinking, Shut Up about Your Vision,  and Manage Your Organization to Success.")

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batye
batye
12/11/2017 11:00:05 AM
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Re: Many Ways for Digital
@clrmoney this days you must research everything as to sort out from hype and sponsored reviews of the failty products... it no longer simple or easy... 

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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/11/2017 10:41:10 AM
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Many Ways for Digital
I think that there are many was to use digital where its online or products so I know it is much more complex if you don't reaaly understand and research what it is all about.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/11/2017 9:51:04 AM
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Re: NTT America's Rigby
This is why I am a firm believer that companies should have open lines of communication from top to bottom. I have seen way too many times where someone who sits behind a desk makes company-wide decisions that anyone on the ground floor will tell you works in theory but not in application.

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