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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/18/2017 11:17:38 AM
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Broadcasting TV for children
If they want to continue with the childrens braodcasting I think they can if it will educate and entertain them etc.

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vnewman
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4/18/2017 2:00:02 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
I completely get this.  There is something a little nefarious about letting your child hover over a device that doesn't seem quite as bad as letting them sit in front of the TV.  Maybe it is a nostaglia thing - after all, you're still passively watching programs in both situations.

As a child, my mother stuck me in front of the TV frequently out of necessity (getting chores done and cooking).  I watched an obsence amount of Mr. Rogers, The Electric Company, Sesame Street, The Magic Garden, Looney Toones...I could go on and on.  I'm an only child so I also had to entertain myself - I also spent endless hours playing outside with friends.  I don't have a negative association with TV nor do I feel it damaged my developmental progress, as I have heard argued by many.  I know tons of folks who don't give their children any screen time at all, be it on a device or box in the living room. 

I was just at a birthday party with a 3 year-old who had incredible conversational skills.  I asked his parents what they thought was behind it.  I expected to hear how they've enrolled him in countless social activities.  Intead they said, "He watches a ton of TV." Go figure.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
4/18/2017 3:11:23 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
Well at least kids aren't totally hooked on things like phones and tablets. While a lot has been said about unhealthy televsion is, I would argue that many digital devices might be even worse. 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/18/2017 5:57:25 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@dcawrey, yes, the devices themselves can be addictive.

I think this is good news for broadcasters and TV content providers.  The ability to deliver through multiple networks can "extend" the comfortable habits of TV watching.

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Adi
Adi
4/19/2017 6:17:53 AM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
dcawrey, vnewman - this is an interesting area. At mobile world congress an operator mentioned that his children feel they are being punished if they have to watch TV instead of using personal devices like tablets. They attach a very high value to these devices and very little to the TV. 

This data suggests that they are an exception, and even in their case, I suspect it is for certain types of content rather than across the board. 

A Danish operator I spoke with recently said that in Denmark, the type of TV content is also slower paced, less busy than in the US. And this caters to a more family-centric viewing behavior compared to the US, which has more fast-paced plots and genres, that are better oriented towards individual viewing.

Not entirely sure I see that, but it's an interesting point. I do think that different cultures and genres will influence device preferences, because social viewing is a part of the large screen experience.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2017 5:49:17 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@adi, fascinating points on the variations in value children hold as a result of the cultural differences and the family values put on certain technologies. 

I also believe your points on the European family values holds very true today.

I guess this is why the key opportunities for broadcasters is to deliver the content through multiple channels - the existing TV networks, as well as the developing devices - maybe like a hub/spoke design?

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vnewman
vnewman
4/19/2017 7:16:27 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
Wow Adi - those are fascinating insights.  A "punishment" sounds so harsh but it makes sense when you frame it in the terms of the alternative being so much more attractive.  I hear the same sentiments from my 4 year-old who will say "I don't want to watch TV, I want a video."  Which to me, means he wants to be in control of what he's watching because of the touch screen.  So I guess not being in control is the punishment part (he can't work the remote!)

What you are saying about the Danes definitely rings true I think - the whole culture puts an emphasis on that cozy, warm feeling of hygge.  I could see where their TV programming reflects that.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/20/2017 7:32:46 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@vnewman, very true that young people today expect to be in control and have choices; those weren't options for the rest of us.  I think that will be a big driver going forward.

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elizabethv
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4/27/2017 9:48:40 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@vnewman - Kids definitely like touch screen and being able to be in control. Which is probably a big part of the appeal of YouTube with kids. We watch TV on our main, family TV with the WiiU, which has a large controller, complete with its own touch screen. My kids like to put YouTube on and then they sit and go from video to video to video, the entire time staring at the small screen in front of them and never actually watching the TV. That is when I allow them to wander over to YouTube. And I try very hard to restrict YouTube. 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/18/2017 5:59:46 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@vnewman, interesting comments and analysis!

I, too, was raised on TV.  But now, as opposed to being stagnant, TV shows provide broadening exposure - which may explain the "developed skills".

One other plus for TV, it usually is consumed in the home and is one social elements for the family unit to hold onto.

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Ariella
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4/18/2017 9:54:34 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@Dhagar I like to say that I found TV very educational as a child. My father thought we watched too much of it and so would cut the plug. As a result, I learned how to attach pugs at a fairly young age.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/18/2017 10:30:43 PM
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@Ariella, great example.  We did learn visually and it can be an excellent instructional educational tool.  It's behind a lot of innovation that our generations of utilized.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/19/2017 11:24:45 AM
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@Dhagar I suppose we can see it that way. I did watch some educational programs, too, like "The Electric Company" and "321 Contact." But, admittedly, a lot of the stuff on I realized was rather dumb even as a kid.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2017 5:51:32 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@Ariella, I am with you on that - but we did learn new things even through the entertainment modes.  Very true that the sophistication of children's programs have advanced tremendously.  Plus, I don't think the initial educational programs were very entertaintaing - as they are now.  It ws more of an "either/or" situation.

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vnewman
vnewman
4/19/2017 7:17:42 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@Ariella - what did you think about Sesame Street?  

Did anyone here watch the Sunday Morning piece on the beginnings of the show?

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Ariella
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4/19/2017 7:19:12 PM
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@vnewman for some reason, I never took to "Sesame Street." I did watch "Mr. Roger's Neighborhood" and some of the other PBS kids shows like the two I mentioned but not that one.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/24/2017 1:58:00 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
What PBS in the US and the BBC has done in the UK has been vital in the development of culture as we know it.    Let's hope for the sake of all it is sustained.    

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DHagar
DHagar
4/20/2017 7:35:40 PM
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@vnewman, I saw that piece on Sunday morning.  It was good!  They are doing a good job and I believe truly understand some of the changes we are identifying.  Don't you?

I, like Ariella, did not watch Sesame Street either - I think the lines between education and entertainment (which Sesame Street began to  break down) were more distinct when I was growing up as well.

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vnewman
vnewman
4/21/2017 1:29:34 PM
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@DHagar.  I agree with you!  It was interesting to be reminded that using television as an educational tool for children is a relatively new concept.  And who knew the idea originally came from a beer commercial of all things!  Fascinating!

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DHagar
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4/21/2017 4:33:38 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@vnewman, that is a fascinating point!  But why not, they know how to market and we need to "market" education as well.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/24/2017 1:56:53 PM
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Isn't it a tragedy that we have to "market" education?   I was thinking about it as I was at the National College Fair for my son yesterday--and was witness to what I am coming to realize as the "College-Industrial Complex" which I hope to develop and write about for one of the #outsider properties....

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Ariella
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4/24/2017 2:05:50 PM
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@mpouraryan sounds like an interesting article. BTW have you read about the latest development in NY?

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/24/2017 2:13:27 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
Yes I have...truly interesting times.....fascinating to be witness to it!! :) :) 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/24/2017 6:48:20 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@mpouraryan, that is definitely true.  Our expectations have forgotten what it takes to "build" quality of life, socieities, etc.  The fact that we have not identified education as a key development of individuals and preserving the human spirit, has possibly turned it into a commodity.

Your paper sounds excellent.  As a Sr. Adjunct Professor for a University, I find it is the ticket to personal success for all - not developing that in individuals leaves them with some distinct disadvantes in life!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/25/2017 10:59:19 AM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
Very gracious of you as this journey continues...May we never lose focus as I also caught the President talking to the Space Station...Flying Cars...etc!! :) :)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_D4i3CLNqU

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DHagar
DHagar
4/26/2017 6:48:19 PM
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@mpouraryan, but the value of the space industry is not just the advancement of technology.  Having worked in aerospace for a number of years - with Martin Marietta Corporation and the Skylab program - there are great research and development projects that benefit healthcare, environmental, agriculture, etc.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/26/2017 8:02:36 PM
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The interview the President had was quite telling...it underscores that Space is a key part in the transformation we all visualize and hope for

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DHagar
DHagar
4/27/2017 7:00:11 PM
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Re: Braocating TV for children
@mpouraryan, excellent - that's good news!  Let's hope we maintain that focus.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/27/2017 7:05:43 PM
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Glad to infuse a sense of optimism as we wind down April 2017..although for two steps forward...one step backward it seems...but will retain hope!!

Onward 2 May w/all the possibilities!!

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/27/2017 7:26:09 PM
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@mpouraryan, great attitude!  We will continue to all work together to "create" the future for ourselves and the next generation!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/27/2017 7:30:54 PM
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Thank you Ma'am..very gracious of you--hard not to remain optimsitic..as I see the vibrancy and optimism of the youth and how engaged the Community--hard not to be!!!

Onward to May with all its' possibilities

:)

 

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vnewman
vnewman
4/19/2017 7:08:18 PM
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@Dhagar - so true.  It is one of the few places in the home you can still have a collective, shared experience in the house aside from the dinner table or perhaps playing board games, which I don't think is as common as it used to be either!

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2017 7:12:50 PM
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@vnewman, true - it is one of the last hold-ons for family events!  Let's hope we don't lose that too - even if people eat at different times/places, they can gather at home to watch together!

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afwriter
afwriter
4/18/2017 11:04:49 PM
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Personal Experience
I have two kids, 7 and 4, and they use both TV and tablets. It is funny because they prefer the traditional TV during the day, but when it comes time for bed they like to have their tablets. For the most part though, I think they still prefer the traditional TV experience to watching on a smaller screen.

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Adi
Adi
4/19/2017 6:11:08 AM
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afwriter - As the fifth-grader in the AP interview said, the large screen and comfy couch do count as advantages, even for sharp young eyes and flexible backs. Plus, I think for children sometimes the value of something is dependent on other people wanting it. So if the parents or older siblings like the TV, then the TV is cool. If they want the tablet, then the tablet is cool.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2017 5:54:23 PM
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Re: Personal Experience
@afwriter, those are interesting distinctions.  That seems to reflect that the TV represents more official family viewing and the devices are their own personal territory?  Probably after hours as well - ie after bed time?

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/19/2017 1:01:32 PM
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Parent's perspective
I don't know that a child's preference for watching TV on the television is entirely controlled by them. My kids get most of their screen time from the television, because  that's where we put them. They watch TV and play in the same room, while my husband and I have switched to watching a lot of our screen time from our phones, tablets and computers (because the kids are on the TV.) My kids do watch their tablets on specified road trips, and our phones occasionally in stores if we say so - but they don't even have their own phones (not the case for all kids, but mine don't) and their tablets are a lot more strictly controlled than the television. 

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