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clrmoney
clrmoney
2/9/2017 2:56:11 PM
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Hulu VR threaten
I don't know about the update app for VR Hulu since they already offer much. I guess they think the the more they offer to us the better it will be for them with this phone app. Well they may have a chance if they have a plan to make money from it.

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dcawrey
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2/9/2017 10:43:52 PM
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Re: Hulu VR threaten
I don't think this is what will destroy move theaters. The problem isn't technology, it's the content itself. Think about it: The cost for a single person to go see a move is more expensive than a Netflix subscription. That's the problem: Economics. 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 10:24:16 AM
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Re: Hulu VR threaten
@dcawrey yes, that's how my MIL thinks. Why should she pay for a movie ticket when she could rent the film (I don't think she's gotten to the point of contemplating streaming services) or even check it out for free from the library if she waits to see it? However, I think she would consider springing for a ticket if it means going out with friends. I'm not sure the younger generation thinks in quite those economical terms.

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:15:34 PM
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Hulu VR
Everything is going digital, all buildings, store, retailers will all become virtual or will be forced to do so. However, it may takes a few years before movie theaters go out of existence.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 3:08:40 PM
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Interesting...
I always wondered why home theater fanatics upgraded their setups with speakers all over their living room when they could just invest in some really fancy headphones....

I suppose fancy headphones get expensive when guests come over to watch.... 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 5:35:48 PM
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Re: Interesting...
<"Millennials are lazier, less interested in theaters> I'm a bit surprised to see that put quite so bluntly. It could have been couched in more positive terms. Do Millenials consider themselves lazier than people from previous generations?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 6:49:25 PM
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Re: Interesting...
I don't think Millenials have labeled themselves the "laziest" generation.. but they're so lazy that they've let other generations give them that label. /rimshot

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 6:54:16 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mmhf1ve Ooh, you better not let any of your Millenial coworkers see that comment!

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/9/2017 8:58:40 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Ariella:

1) That presumes he has any.

2) Why not?  What are they gonna do?  Make an angry hashtag about it?  As long as he doesn't get caught in a Burn-All-the-Things-to-Protect-Our-Safe-Spaces riot, he'll be fine.  ;)

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 10:22:27 AM
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Re: Interesting...
@Joe 

1. true, though odds are pretty good of that, especially for people working in tech.

2. don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. 

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:23:10 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Joe Stanganelli, oh my goodness. I am ROTF at your comment. So funny and so true.

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Joe Stanganelli
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2/9/2017 9:01:37 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mhh: As much as I enjoy your quip, I think it's less about laziness as it is about complacency.  Their priorities are very different from those of Boomers, Gen Jones, Gen X, and even Gen Y.  (Yes, I do make that distinction.  There is a WORLD of difference between someone born in 1988 and someone born in 1998.)

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/10/2017 10:39:25 AM
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Re: Interesting...
> "There is a WORLD of difference between someone born in 1988 and someone born in 1998.)" Heh. If this trend keeps up, we'll be naming generations as frequently as iPhones come out. What comes after Generation Z? Generation ZS or Z+?

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/10/2017 12:05:49 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mhh: I remember reading years ago (it may have been Scott Adams who wrote it but I forget) that car makers, electronics manufacturers, and the like purposely throw seemingly "random" letters in the names of their products/models to suggest sex.  (e.g., the BMW S.X)  I suspect Apple/iPhone is no different.

That said, I rather think that after Z we would just roll right back to A...  That's certainly better than, say, going to W.

Or maybe it will be "Generation Smith"...to complement "Generation Jones".

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:21:53 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mhhf1ve, LOL! Laziness occurs in all generations not just millennials but in that example using the word lazy was a poor choice or words. Some millennials are trying to combat the bad labels placed on them and then some are living up to those labels just as with other generations who have labels placed on them.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/9/2017 9:11:11 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Ariella: I'm just baffled at the assumption that being less interested in theaters comes from laziness.  There are a zillion reasons Millennials and non-Millennials alike may avoid movie theaters.

On the Millennial side, I think it comes down more to the widely studied and acknowledged Millennial preference for a personal screen when viewing video.

There's also cost, gross and unsanitary conditions, rude patrons, deafening new sound technology (although I acknowledge some consider this factor a plus), and the general hassle of arranging with multiple people going to the movies.

And we all have realized by this point that, on the romance side, movie dates -- at least in the beginning of dating -- are terrible because you're staring in the same direction sitting still instead of getting to know each other or interacting with each other.

You may as well sit at home and do that.  And I think Millennials are smart enough to realize that.

Lazy?  What a weird and strange conclusion, indeed.  I agree.

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Owner85593
Owner85593
2/9/2017 11:23:27 PM
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Re: Interesting...
This is all great but we should look at what the Fcc is doing to the internet and how those providers will work with the new technology. Without the bandwidth, the server that will provide the video will cost too much for the everyday customer. And with the new President Trump in his knowledge of the internet it will be up to the customer to push for a better way to enjoy the home media service the Hulu and those services provide.

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Adi
Adi
2/10/2017 5:54:15 AM
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Owner85593  - One of the advantages of this approach is that the actual video is 2D, even though the virtual theatre is 3D. But that doesn't have the same bandwidth implications, as that imagery is static. So it creates an immersive experience, but not with high-bandwidth 360-degree video.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 10:48:18 AM
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Re: Interesting...
<On the Millennial side, I think it comes down more to the widely studied and acknowledged Millennial preference for a personal screen when viewing video.>

@Joe I agree, I think that is so. Consider the fact that even airplanes stopped showing movies on a screen for all in favor of individual screens on seatbacks that offers viewers choices.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/10/2017 12:17:02 PM
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@Ariella: Indeed--and that's a trend that began with the airlines, what, over 12 years ago?

The one problem of that, though, when it's a touchscreen: having to feel someone in the seat behind you pressing much harder than necessary on the screen on the back of your seat (particularly if they are less tech savvy and don't quite understand that touchscreens don't require high degrees of pressure).  I'm very thankful for the airlines that don't use touchscreens and instead have armrest controls.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 12:29:45 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Joe I guess we'd have to add that to the list of frequent flyer problems: toomuch pressure on a touch screens.

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:24:45 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Joe Stanganelli, good points, I totally agree.

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:27:01 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Joe, "There's also cost, gross and unsanitary conditions, rude patrons, deafening new sound technology (although I acknowledge some consider this factor a plus), and the general hassle of arranging with multiple people going to the movies."

Those are valid considerations. That's why sometimes I like ordering new releases and watching them at home - no noise, 1/3 the cost, no unsanitary conditions and I can watch it as many times as I want to and rewind or fast forward at any point in the movie.

 

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freehe
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2/28/2017 9:18:32 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@Ariella, I agree, just because someone doesn't want to go to a movie theater does not mean they are lazy. Sometimes I order new releases via my cable subscription but that doesn't mean I am lazy. This is definitely a poor choice of words to describe a demographic that all companies are clamoring to influence for their business.

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Joe Stanganelli
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2/9/2017 9:06:25 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mhh: I have a pet theory that people who like loud things also actively enjoy sharing that loudness with others -- for better or worse.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 10:46:15 AM
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Re: Interesting...
< I have a pet theory that people who like loud things also actively enjoy sharing that loudness with others -- for better or worse>

@Joe no question about it; it's how extroverts are wired.

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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:16:44 PM
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Re: Interesting...
@mhhf1ve, Well now we know why, LOL!

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afwriter
afwriter
2/9/2017 10:40:57 PM
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Another Blow to Theaters
The theater industry did this to themselves by pricing themselves out of the market. This is the way markets work and we have seen an increasing number of theater have to close their doors for good. To take my kids to a movie and buy popcorn and a drink it's $50 bucks; a hulu subscription and fresh popcorn and soda cost a signifigant amount less. The only reason to go to a theater any more is for the ambiance that some theaters have worked really hard to create.

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elizabethv
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2/10/2017 8:30:15 AM
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Re: Another Blow to Theaters
@afwriter - a lot of theaters are justifying the cost of their tickets with reclining chairs. Which personally are the bane of my movie-viewing existence. I work nights and take care of a preschooler and toddler during the day. Then, just to top that all off, I'm at the end of my third pregnancy. So to say I'm tired all of the time is a gross-understatement. Which means any time we go to the movies anymore, if I'm in a reclining seat, it doesn't matter what the movie is, I'm falling asleep. But AMC still has $5 movies if you go before noon, so that helps us justify the expense. If I'm taking my kids though, we're waiting and going to the $1.50 theater in town. It's not like they really care, my kids are under 5. 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/10/2017 12:13:56 PM
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Re: Another Blow to Theaters
@elizabethv: ONE aspect of the utter ridiculousness of that is that I can sit at home in a reclining chair and watch video I already pay for via cable subscription, OTT subscription, or just plain ol' Internet subscription (for video that is otherwise free).

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dcawrey
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2/10/2017 2:25:35 PM
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Re: Another Blow to Theaters
@Joe Stanganelli The only problem with that is content providers are still going to keep new releases from you. It's actually a pretty good marketing ploy: While you are watching content you already pay for, they push content you should be paying for. 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/11/2017 7:50:54 AM
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Re: Another Blow to Theaters
@dcawrey: See, for me personally, I'm fine with that, because (1) I'm generally perfectly content to rewatch the same stuff over and over (Did I mention one of my favorite channels is the Game Show Network?), and (2) I think movies, the past 10+ years are so, have generally been garbage (or, at least, not my cup of tea) -- and on the infrequent occasion that there's a newer release I *really* want to see, I'll wait until I see a good price for the DVD online or at Target or Walmart (which tends to be cheaper than the on-demand rental price).

The only time I got "burned" by that was when I was waiting for the complete series of House to come on to Netflix.  I waited and I waited and it didn't come.

Finally, Christmas was around the corner and my mom began hectoring me about what to get me for Christmas, when the truthful answer is usually "nothing" or "socks," and it always ends up with her sending me a gift card of some kind -- always with the guilt-driving message/explanation of "I never know what you want."  So that year, I said, look, if you really want to get me something, you can get me the boxed set of House on DVD.

So she did.  Yay.

And then about a week later, as January began, Netflix announced it had just gotten House.

Argh.



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freehe
freehe
2/28/2017 9:19:43 PM
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VR
I am not a fan of VR and never will be. It just does not appeal to me. I prefer watching a TV or watching something on a portable device. I don't need any more devices to carry around, search for, pay for, maintain and care for. I have more than enough. I will pass on VR.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/4/2017 12:41:29 AM
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Re: VR
> "I am not a fan of VR and never will be. "

I'm not a fan right now.. but I won't say I'll *never* be a fan of VR. Maybe when someone figures out how to tap directly into the visual cortex of the brain and direct a "lucid dream" to generate a VR experience? That way there'd be no veritgo or even a dorky goggle headset? 

Inception.. here we come!

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batye
batye
3/4/2017 10:00:46 AM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve for me VR is more hype than anything else... I could not use any VR due to the bad eyes... but to each his own.... I do hope VR not gonna follow path of 3D TV... but time will tell...

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mhhf1ve
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3/7/2017 2:49:26 PM
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Re: VR
> "VR is more hype than anything else.."

After hearing about some of the problems at Magic Leap, I'm more skeptical of AR/VR than ever. I think there may need to be a few more decades of incremental improvements before AR/VR is really ready to "revolutionize" anything. 

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Joe Stanganelli
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2/10/2017 12:07:42 PM
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Re: Another Blow to Theaters
Supposedly, at least in the first few weeks or couple months a movie is out, all the theater's ticket revenue is going to the studios/producers/what-have-you, so all their money comes from refreshments -- thus why they price them so high and are so GRRRRRR about people bringing their own snacks/drinks.

I don't say this to disagree with you.  I say this to help explain the broken model that legacy Hollywood is/has become.

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srufolo1
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2/12/2017 11:57:47 AM
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Hulu VR Update
I believe Hulu has embarked on something great with this idea. Also, I don't think it's that Millennials are lazy and not interested in theaters. It's about being in the comfort of your own home without having to listen to people chew on popcorn and candy, and the privacy. I'm all for this VR home-theater idea. How do I sign on?

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dcawrey
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2/12/2017 2:58:45 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@srufolo1 Here's my question: Is this a real technology play for Hulu, or a gimmick?

I'm asking because I think a lot of content providers are going to talk about VR as a new business line. But it just seems like a whole lot of marketing nonsense to me. I'm not interested in watching Brooklyn Nine Nine in VR. 

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srufolo1
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2/13/2017 6:50:48 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@dcawey: I don't think a company of Hulu's stature would not be using gimmicks as a marketing strategy. I'm not on Hulu's marketing team, but I think the company has a solid plan in mind as far as content goes.

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freehe
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2/28/2017 9:31:14 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@dcawrey, I will you. I don't want to either. It just does not appeal to me to watch content using VR.

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Michelle
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2/28/2017 9:31:16 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@dc I vote for gimmick! I think there are fewer folks interested in watching shows in VR. Personally, I'll stay away. 

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freehe
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2/28/2017 9:34:33 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@Michelle, I think it is  a gimmick too. I don't buy a product based on gimmicks. There is no monetary benefit or other benefit for me buying VR. It doesn't improve anything that another product already provides, - HD TV, UHD, OTT, etc.

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Michelle
Michelle
2/28/2017 9:51:24 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
@freehee VR is anything but good for me. I can't even handle watching 3D movies. I can't be alone in that.

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dlr5288
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2/28/2017 8:59:16 PM
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Re: Hulu VR Update
I agree I definitely don't think laziness has anything to do with it. I think it's just times are changing and people are evolving.

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elizabethv
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2/15/2017 9:09:18 AM
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Movie Theatre's
Honestly, with the direction movie theaters are going, that doesn't sound like a half-bad idea. To justify the high prices of their tickets a lot of movie theaters are switching to the reclining chair seating and even offering delivery of food right to your seat. Except that also means you are assigned a seat in the theater, and there are far fewer seats. So really, it's best to purchase your tickets ahead of time. Gone are the days where you might just want to show up at the theater to see a movie. Over the weekend my husband and I were going to a United Artist theater, and while I knew the local AMC theaters had made this switch, I was completely oblivious to the fact that United Artist had as well. Top that off with the fact that when we arrived was the actual start time of the movie. (Rogue One - we're behind.) By the time we arrived the only available seats were in the front row. Thinking it was similar to the front row of yesteryear we agreed. But it wasn't, and I honestly don't even know why they bothered with that row. Even in the fully reclined chair, you're still basically looking straight up to see the movie. Needless to say we got our money back and left. I've always really enjoyed going to the movies, but the additional hassle has me quesitoning whether or not it's even worth it.  

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