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Re: Winner
@Ariella: Relatedly, the New Yorker Cartoon Caption Contest recently started inviting people to "assess"/vote on captions before the three finalists, asking them to weigh whether a caption is "funny" or "not funny". I am given to believe that this taken into some degree of consideration in selecting the finalists, although I am not sure what that degree is, exactly.
Re: Winner
> What about a similar requirement that if you put in an entry you also have to vote?
This could go either way. It could result in better results. Or it could result in 9-way ties among subpar entries as people "waste" their required vote.
(Disclaimer, incidentally: I stand by every vote I've made as a vote for a caption that genuinely made me laugh. As a lawyer, I'm just naturally inclined to see perverse incentives and risks that exist in proposals.)
Re: Winner
@Mike: Granted, I'm a contributor to this very issue, but it's worth considering that she sheer *volume* of entries makes asking community members to vote fairly, judiciously, and equitably on what may be close to 100 entries inherently problematic, in my estimation.
For this reason, I reiterate my suggestion of a judge or judging panel that at least unilaterally decides a shortlist for voting -- if not decides the winners outright.
(What about tossing the artist -- since it is his work, after all -- a couple extra bucks to have to read all the entries (anonymized, if that is deemed helpful) and create a shortlist? (J. Klossner did this on at least one occasion, yes?) Then you as the judge, or a judging panel, or the voters would have a MUCH easier and more realistic task at hand.
Re: Winner
@mhh: I'm aware of/familiar with the AMZN Mechanical Turks but have not participated in or contracted with the program. (Some critiques I've seen here (link) and here (link)).
That said, because of the grueling workload of an active participant -- who typically gets paid pennies per pop ($0.02 to $0.10) -- I tend to think you may, for some especially topical cartoons, face a certain barrier in finding enough participants who are familiar enough with the subject matter of the vertical, replete with background and subtleties. (We are a rather niche community, after all, are we not?)
Or, to put it another way, I humbly posit that you get what you pay for.
But you seem to be much more familiar with it? What has your experience been? Would you say that my gut reaction is too ignorant/cynical? I'd like to learn more.
Ariella
12/21/2016 3:27:59 PM
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Re: Winner
@Joe interesting, I wonder if they will be transparent about the extent of the impact.
JohnBarnes
12/21/2016 10:17:27 PM
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I'm thinking of C. Northcote Parkinson ...
Specifically, "The volume of discussion of an agenda item is inversely proportional to its importance." Every month the caption contest gets more posts than anything else -- even if you take out the entries themselves!
Of course Parkinson explained it in his wonderful semi-economic rational-choice way: people like to participate. If the question is buying a nuclear reactor, there are only a few people in the room who have anything to say, and everyone else is afraid of looking foolish. If the question is building a bicycle shed at the edge of the parking lot, many more people know something they can put in, and there's less to fear in having one's ignorance exposed. And, as I recall, Parkinson observed that if the subject is buying a coffee machine for the break room, the meeting may never end ...
(All this from my lazy memory)
dcawrey
12/23/2016 1:03:21 PM
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Re: Winner
Is there a poll somewhere? I think doing this from the comments thread makes it hard to read. Would be good to get a list of finalized candidates (maybe 5-10) and then vote in an online poll.
mpouraryan
12/23/2016 11:53:51 PM
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Re: I'm thinking of C. Northcote Parkinson ...
You always never cease to amaze @JohnBarnes even on such light moments. Congrats to all those who were brave and creative enough to enter--it is always fun to be able to see it all in action!!
mpouraryan
12/23/2016 11:56:13 PM
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Re: I'm thinking of C. Northcote Parkinson ...
..I just hope that this admonition of his is something we would never have to deal with, "...The chief product of an automated society is a widespread and deepening sense of boredom...." :) :) :)
Re: Winner
@dcawrey: Voting on voting. How meta! ;)
Perhaps John's point is on target -- and this we have all contributed to complicating this too far.
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