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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:34:48 PM
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Re: Spoilers
@John: I think your wife has the right idea.  Binge-watching after the fact = not waiting in edgy, irritated anticipation for the next show.

I <3 TV, myself.  Good TV, anyway.  But I do watch less of it than I used to now that everything is on demand.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:36:48 PM
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Re: Spoilers
@John: While the reduction of types in terms of what's coming out of Hollywood these days may be unfortunate, the limit in and reptition of types of plots is hardly a TV-age phenomenon.  We get almost everything from the days of the Renaissance and earlier, and character types can be tied back to the Commedia Dell'Arte.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
10/15/2016 1:37:42 PM
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Re: So confused...
@elizabethv: Maybe so you can cut short those people nagging you that you HAVE to watch The Wire?  ;)

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JohnBarnes
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10/15/2016 3:24:14 PM
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Re: Spoilers
Joe,

Even the most diverse theatres and literatures of the past had no more than about 20 stories that accounted for the overwhelming majority of what they produced. But the reduction from about 12-15 to about 3 is still a large loss -- especially since I think it mainly reflects concentrating far too much on the emotional/esthetic needs and values of adolescents to the exclusion of other people (both younger and older). Unfortunately, as i say too often, the ideal consumer for our economic structure is a fifteen year old with no credit limit (meaning no impulse control, overvaluing peer opinion, preferring just-this-moment stuff, and having sixty years to be chained to paying it all off...). All the popular arts have come to be focused to appeal to teens with money -- even if the teens are actually 45 year olds in their second marriages and third careers.

Nowadays you have a real hard time financing a movie that says "Grow Where You Are Planted and Appreciate What You Have Achieved" like It's a Wonderful Life, Penny Serenade, Pete and Tillie, or probably even Mr. Holland's Opus.  People are supposed to perpetually reinvent and recreate, shedding commitments like snakeskins.  You can't easily sell a movie in which the central characters have to accept that their feelings don't matter as much as bigger things in the world around them, especially not if that's the main value (High Noon, Casablanca, Camelot, The Wages of Fear).

And that, to mix some major metaphors, is a shrinkage of what kind of material our culture can process and what the outcome of the process can be. In a sense, it's the culture as a whole getting dumber.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
10/16/2016 4:40:23 AM
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Re: So confused...
Haha, I suppose some people can be overbearing. Maybe it would depend on the person and how annoying they were about it..... But seriously, have you seen The Wire? (I definitely have not. Lol.)

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elizabethv
elizabethv
10/16/2016 4:47:25 AM
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Re: Why people lie about watching TV shows...
@JohnBarnes - That's a really good point. It's all about keeping up with the Jones'. People like to feel included and fit in with the group. But I still think it would be better to tell the truth instead of wasting time reading wikis. 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
10/16/2016 12:12:51 PM
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Re: Spoilers
The need to tell a story and learn from it--it seems to me--should be welcome to all.    I hope you're not including things like Sully in your assessment John.     Yes, people attention spans are getting shorter--but the need for deep engaging analysis should be at the heart of transformaiton--right? 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
10/16/2016 12:14:30 PM
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Re: So confused...
Just to "hopefully" help nudge the conversation further, something for all to review and think about:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/29/irans-blogfather-facebook-instagram-and-twitter-are-killing-the-web?CMP=twt_gu

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
10/16/2016 2:49:09 PM
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Re: So confused...
..and just one more "addendum" to this thought which I look forward to the community sharing thoughts on it:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/16/is-golden-age-tv-over-netflix-shows-cable-television?&utm_source=currently&utm_medium=browser-extension&utm_campaign=chrome

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batye
batye
10/16/2016 3:39:24 PM
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Re: So confused...
@mpouraryan same on my end the same hope.... - thanks for the link - interesting reading :) 

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