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LightRay
2/21/2016 10:59:29 AM
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AT&T's Donovan blew it out of the water
AT&T's John Donovan gave one of the best, most insightful and most candid interviews about the transformation of communications networks I have ever heard and gave a great deal of food for thought for the other operators in the room, espceially about the importance of white box networking.
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Yes, I see that Mr. Donovan seems to be very confident about the level of impact white box networking would have for service providers while the poll spoke otherwise. What is his reasoning behind his vision of massive impact?
Ariella
2/22/2016 9:20:11 AM
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@ms.akkineni you've touched on a universal truth here. The company reps have to sound very confident about the future for their tech. You get more of a reality check from speaking to pepole who don't share that agenda abotu their perception of it.
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@Ariella:
Absolutely...
I was hoping a response from someone that had some insight. I saw a new post by Mike about White Box Networking. I will check that out soon.
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Sorry I didn't get back to right away, but he did address white box networking in that other story. White box networking tips the scales towards the service provider/enterprise since they can shop for the best bargains on a quarter by quarter basis. There's the potential for a vendor to slash prices in the short term to win business, but then someone else could do the same to them the next quarter.
Ariella
2/23/2016 1:15:06 PM
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@Mike the danger of steep competition there. You cut prices to gain market share only to have someone else play the same trick against you.
mpouraryan
2/23/2016 3:08:53 PM
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Price should only be one factor--right? Hopefully people understand the true value of the investment and the long-term return along with the viability of the technology itself.
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@Ariella:
You cut prices to gain market share only to have someone else play the same trick against you....
NEWTON"S THIRD LAW......
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No worries Mike. I am sure you are super occupied over there.
Appreciate the information you provided.Also I reviewed your other post as well.
Price is the driving factor obviously. As you rightly said i can foresee provider companies lining up with their bargains highlighting several options for consumes to choose.
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@Mike:
I would appreciate if you can share what were highlighted as trending cosnumer needs, when you get a chance. I am interested to know the trend.
mpouraryan
2/23/2016 3:11:04 PM
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What is clear in this discourse is simple: Caveat Emptor (Buyer be aware!!). The hype is a given by all who are zealous advocates for their technology.
Ariella
2/23/2016 3:19:05 PM
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@mpourayan true, one has to keep some salt on hand to add the requisite number of grains when hearing hyped news.
batye
2/23/2016 3:21:51 PM
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@Ariella this days it not an easy way to figure out the truth about technology... as even big Co. like Nintendo do lie... even to kids...
mpouraryan
2/23/2016 3:28:06 PM
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@Ariella: It is not easy by any stretch--the challenge is to create that sense of balance. I would humbly suggest that those who actually are able to figure it out, will be truly at the heart of the transformation we all want and "hopefully" vie for.
batye
2/23/2016 3:19:27 PM
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@mpouraryan yes you are right, as a lot of the hype do happens and it does create negative effect...
mpouraryan
2/23/2016 3:22:21 PM
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@batye: The key is to not "buy into" the hype per se and truly be smart. Although, for instance, the Verizon announcement on "iOT" is great--the question of standards is a challenge as well.
Ariella
2/23/2016 3:29:31 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, the question of standards is important, particularly when different definitions are attached to certain terms.
mpouraryan
2/23/2016 3:35:29 PM
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The challenge is to create a standard that everyone buys into. My fear is that due to the proliferation of initiatives out there (Nest; Verizon; etc.) what is promising (and Business Insider has a report on it about the possibilities) may become even more challenging to sustain for that sense of value that all of us strive for.
Ariella
2/23/2016 3:44:36 PM
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@mpourayran Indeed. Over time, the industry is forced to agree on a single standard, though that can take a few years.
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@Ariella;
Single Standard model appears to be a future possibility for sure. I am sure and would rather hope that provider companies look into adding a 'customize the standard' capability so it's not like one suit fits everone's needs kind of model. Ofcourse every custom option is subject to additional price. But that will create a perception of standard as well as ability to customize as per one's need and priority. The nerve of today's consumer is 'I need what i want'.
Ariella
2/23/2016 4:55:21 PM
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@ms.akkineni True, today's customers are very demanding.
NewIPLiz
2/23/2016 5:56:34 PM
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Customers are very demanding @Ariella. We are so used to having everything at our fingertips that when something doesn't work right off the bat, it's bad news for the provider -- not matter what they are providing.
batye
2/23/2016 7:11:17 PM
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@NewIPLiz yes, I could not agree more, this days customers is from new generation of now... and provider easy get in trouble if they fail to provide... I think it reality of the new IT age.... instant gratification :)
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True, but at the same time, if you're a carrier, the speed and the quality are what you have going for you if you're going to justify charging me the high prices you charge me.
mpouraryan
2/26/2016 12:00:18 AM
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We can't stop progress--again the question is who will prevail in this.
freehe
2/27/2016 3:00:29 PM
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Digital transformation feeds the consumer appetite for instant gratification made possible years ago by advertisers providing any product or service in 60 seconds or less. Digital transformation will continue to advance our day-to-day functions for individuals and businesses.
mpouraryan
2/28/2016 11:18:27 PM
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As I read your thoughts @freehe I could not help but wonder you'd classify what Facebook did wish a big push on V/R at MWC in the same vein. The transformation is gratifying to be witness to--the question is to what end?
batye
3/1/2016 3:21:45 AM
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@mpouraryan interesting question, but we gonna see it - with time :)
dlr5288
2/29/2016 11:26:18 PM
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Good point.
I agree that all consumers really want is a reliable and fast connection. I think with moving forward towards digital trasformation the consumers still want the same. They want to have a reliable, fast, and easy digital transformation.
Everything is moving towards digital and I think all the consumers want is to not get lost in the huge changing process. I think it would be a good idea if the consumers were involved from the start of this digital process. So they too can learn what really is happening with the transformation.
batye
3/1/2016 3:22:59 AM
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@dlr5288 yes, you are right... and no other way... as everyone expect it... have it right/good and stable connection...
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 7:40:55 PM
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> "The challenge is to create a standard that everyone buys into..."
I'm not so sure that a single company or organization can/should create the "next" standard. The telco world seems to need to be reminded every so often that open protocols are the way to get everything connected. Ethernet has been doing very well for decades for a reason....
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To speak of "buying into standards," I think Randall Munroe got it right on the money.
Link
mpouraryan
2/25/2016 11:59:28 PM
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As long as the move towards "open standards" ensures the safety and security for all. That should be the driving force more than anything else.
batye
3/1/2016 3:24:20 AM
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@mhhf1ve yes you are right... but it does take time... plus other factors in play... as nothing simple this days... like before :)
batye
2/23/2016 3:30:36 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, as it not a simple way... nor easy...
Interesting
@Ray: Thanks for sharing the info.
Hyper Adoption and Consumer Needs appear to be the main agenda items. I would appreciate any more information about takeaways from the discussion. What were highlighted as trending consumer needs?
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 7:38:18 PM
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more competition is good, right?
> "White box networking tips the scales towards the service provider/enterprise since they can shop for the best bargains on a quarter by quarter basis. There's the potential for a vendor to slash prices in the short term to win business, but then someone else could do the same to them the next quarter...."
The trend of lower cost (and open source) hardware is going to have an immense impact on networking vendors. Service providers still need to be able to offer differentiated services, but building that on top of generic hardware might be tough -- though telcos/MSOs appear to be ramping up their devops to try to make their own software stacks up to the challenge.
The interesting thing to watch is how/if a networking equipment maker can become an "Apple" of the market by integrating proprietary hardware/software with really unique functions that can't be easily copied with generic hardware. OR.. will the market become like the Android world -- based on open source and highly fragmented and forked?
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