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srufolo1
srufolo1
8/9/2017 1:22:20 AM
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Re: No surprises
@elizabethv  I could barely stand "cruise control" because I felt out of control using it let along a fully autonomous car. Nope, not ready for that. However, I do like some features, such as blind spot detection, which would make it easier to park parallel when in the city.

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Michelle
Michelle
8/9/2017 2:05:22 PM
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Re: No surprises
I'm not sure "want to experience" is the right phrase. "Prefer over a miscalculated over-correction by machine" is almost right.

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Michelle
Michelle
8/9/2017 2:07:03 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
Exactly! We haven't solved the matter of life over death in a machine like that...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/9/2017 2:51:54 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
I sorta wonder what will happen if we figure out that autonomous cars -- if they're programmed to drive like humans -- are almost as dangerous? We could probably reduce traffic accidents by reducing speed limits, but we don't... and if AI cars are going to drive 10MPH over the limits just like us, maybe they won't be that much safer either?

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Ariella
Ariella
8/9/2017 3:12:08 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
@,hhf1ve I wrote about that problem  a couple of years ago. It's a serious ethical problem to plan programming that may have to harm someone because in real life, you can't cheat your way out of the the no-win scenario presented in something like the Kobayashi Maru.

 



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afwriter
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:36:03 PM
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Re: No surprises
I can't stand not being in control of the car, yet at the same time I would love to not have to drive on long car rides. 

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afwriter
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:42:49 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
It's like the question whether you pull the level to switch the train tracks and kill one person versus three. It's a moral question for a machine without morality. 

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afwriter
afwriter
8/9/2017 11:45:12 PM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
I'm not sold on an aftermarket product being completely safe. Obviously, I could be proven wrong but the whole idea scares the crap out of me. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
8/10/2017 9:55:54 AM
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Re: aftermarket autonomy...
Eek! An aftermarket autonomous vehicle package - not only would I personally not trust that, it scares the crap out of me just thinking of other cars on the road having it. A few weeks ago a guy ran a stop sign and hit a van with a mother and her 3 boys in it - all 4 of them died. It is a story that still turns my stomach inside out to this day (because I too have 3 boys that were similarly aged to hers) And that vehicle had a driver. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
8/10/2017 9:58:14 AM
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Platinum
Re: No surprises
@srufolo1 - Blind spot detection is awesome! I have a back-up camera on my van, but my grandparents actually have a program that guides the car as you back up. Automatic parallel parking would have helped the woman in the large SUV I watched try to park between two other cars before giving up after about five minutes last week. I did have to chuckle at that one, but I guess not everyone can parallel park. (I'm no expert, but I can make it work in my van, between two vehicles. So I am at least able to do it. Lol.) 

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