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clrmoney
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7/5/2017 12:11:04 PM
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Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
You would think that US would be up there somewhere with cybersecurity but there are many hackers in the US that can bypass many things. So Singapore in the league then Good for them and continue the progress.

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mhhf1ve
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7/5/2017 12:41:46 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
It makes some sense that Singapore is ahead -- it's a small country, but it is highly automated. The city-nation also wants to maintain strict control over its residents, and it can't maintain an orderly smart-city without automated traffic/transportation controls. If those transportation controls were hacked, the city would be flooded with traffic jams and might grind to a halt. 

Singapore has historically been quite paranoid about its physcial security. It's small enough that it could "easily" be overrun by attackers -- if not for everyone having mandatory military training. So it's not surprising that after physical security, Singapore would also want cyber-security as well. Given how good "Singapore Math" is, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone isn't also trained in good IT hygiene, too. 

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Ariella
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7/5/2017 2:33:03 PM
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@mhhf1ve would we still call it "paranoid" when major security breaches make the news every day? And those are the ones that we know about; I'm sure many otheres don't make headlines.

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dcawrey
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7/5/2017 3:31:18 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
Singapore has a lot of incentive to make sure its IT security is top notch. 

Technology is one of the country's biggest industries. It's not like Singapore has a bunch of natural resources - it has to rely on advanced economics. Cybersecurity is part of that equation. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/6/2017 2:02:09 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
> "would we still call it "paranoid" when major security breaches make the news every day?"

Hmm. I suppose we should all be "reasonably mistrustful" -- but being paranoid means that we are "unreasonably mistrustful" -- so.. hopefully, the "fake news" and conspiracy theories of the day aren't making us unreasonable!

 

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elizabethv
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7/11/2017 8:55:36 AM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
@mhhf1ve - I don't know, have you seen some of the conspiracy theories floating around, and the people that believe them? I saw a lady the other day who laughed finding it impossible that all of the voter registration information for the entire country could be transmitted via email. I think a fair number of people have an inaccurate understanding of what our current technology is capable of. Realistically, there are probably people on both sides of that spectrum. 

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mhhf1ve
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7/11/2017 4:12:43 PM
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> "I saw a lady the other day who laughed finding it impossible that all of the voter registration information for the entire country could be transmitted via email."

Impossible? Because she still thinks of computers with vacuum tubes and a maximum of 64Kb of memory? 

Or... because whenever she tries to send an email attachment, her email client gives her an error that says "attached file is too large".....? 

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elizabethv
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7/12/2017 8:21:06 AM
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@mhhf1ve - Lol, my guess would be the latter, she has a certain file size to obide by so obviously the US Government does too. 

Accurate analysis of the hacking of the elections in Singapore as well. Lol. Though I would hope that kind of thing would be taken into account when bragging about the technology Singapore has achieved. Maybe I'm wrong there. 

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mhhf1ve
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7/12/2017 9:59:46 AM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
I'm sure Singapore is the target of plenty of corporate espionage trying to steal its advanced technologies and know-how to be replicated in other nations. But that's pretty much par for the course for any country that has significant intellectual property.

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mpouraryan
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7/20/2017 4:12:53 PM
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Well, it has already arrived--but President Trump has concerns about that.   The point is that we're moving in that direction whether we like it or not.

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freehe
freehe
7/22/2017 10:42:56 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
@elizabethv, I agree. Unfortunately there are millions of people who have the same views. Just as some people believe everything they read or hear on the news or from the government.

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afwriter
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7/29/2017 6:09:31 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
The proliferation of fake news and the people believing it is becoming more problematic by the day it seems. 

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dlr5288
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7/31/2017 6:49:56 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
Agreed. Most people don't get that the news only puts out what they want us to see..

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freehe
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7/22/2017 10:35:01 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
@Ariella, good point. Companies are required to report all cybersecurity and data breaches but most do not. And when they do the fines are so small there is really no incentive to report the incidents.

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Ariella
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7/23/2017 7:02:01 PM
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@frehe with respect to the fines, the EU also imposes those for violations of its data collection policies. That's why Google gets slapped over there. But, as large as the fines may seem to us mere mortals, they're likely a drop i the bucket for Google. 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/24/2017 11:55:10 AM
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..although a "drop", I would humbly suggest that there is the issue of the "brand" and image as well.  There lies the challenge!!!

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Ariella
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7/24/2017 12:10:05 PM
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@mpouraryan I don't know. It doesn't seem to bother Google that people know it falls past the line of "evil" in collecting data. Its new Feed feature is going to pull together even more data on people, and I'm certain that (at least in the US where it can still get away with it) it will sell that on for marketing.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/24/2017 12:14:33 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
It is also of note that they ultimately have to run paranoid--because only the paranoid survives--right? 

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Ariella
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7/24/2017 12:15:57 PM
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@mpouraryan some people just accept that they have no privacy any more. It would be an interesting study to look at whether Gen Z people are more accepting or more wary of data collection than older generations who were not born into the big data age.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/24/2017 12:17:38 PM
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The notion of privacy is a myth in this day and age--it was interesting that in India, there was a debate on this very fact before the Indian Supreme Court and that there is, in fact, no right to privacy.     The need to be cautious, yes self-censor and be deliberative is ever so crucial now. 

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Ariella
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7/24/2017 12:27:55 PM
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@mpouraryan yet there is a clear difference one can see between different cultures, as the stricter EU regulations for data privacy protection  demonstrate.

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mpouraryan
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7/24/2017 7:16:04 PM
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...and just to "revise and extend my thoughts", I wanted to share this from a recent article in the NY Times that is quite a read on privacy hope all enjoy!!

Wishin' all a great final week of July..onward to August!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/technology/personaltech/how-to-protect-your-privacy-as-more-apps-harvest-your-data.html?rref=collection%2Fbyline%2Fbrian-x.-chen&action=click&contentCollection=undefined&_r=0

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Ariella
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7/24/2017 7:25:44 PM
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@mpouraryan did you see the article about the Roomba collecting data? It's at https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/24/16021610/irobot-roomba-homa-map-data-sale

In 2015, iRobot introduced the Roomba 980, its first W-Fi-connected model. This meant that while a Roomba was quietly whirring around your floors, it was also collecting spacial data using visual localization, sensors, and more. This data helps the Roomba figure out how your home is laid out and adjust cleaning patterns on-the-fly to deal with things like moved furniture. But Angle thinks it could be put to use by more devices.

"There's an entire ecosystem of things and services that the smart home can deliver once you have a rich map of the home that the user has allowed to be shared," Angle told Reuters. Angle says that this data won't be sold without permission, but Reuters says he thinks "most would give their consent in order to access the smart home functions."

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/24/2017 7:32:19 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
Yes..>I've been aware of it...and as an FYI, it was either the Dialy Telegraph or the Daily Mail...(Hope someone has the time to share.......kind of running right now) headlining a story in tomorrow Edition in the UK that Smart Homes may be vunerable to hacking in such a way that account numbers can be accessed--we have to be vigliant in every which way.

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Ariella
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7/24/2017 7:35:45 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, smart homes present a lot of entry points for hacking, and it's not limited to actual homes. There was a report on a smart aquarium that left a casino vulnerable to hacking here: http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/19/technology/fish-tank-hack-darktrace/index.html

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mpouraryan
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7/24/2017 7:46:39 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
..Thanks for the link--yes indeed aware of that as well as part of my on-going research and engagement in support of the startup I work for -it has been something we've deliberated here in TT..and just as a point of historical reference--remind all of the DDOS attack last year that caused so much havoc.  Whoever figures out this puzzle will have a goldmine--right? 

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dcawrey
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7/24/2017 12:34:03 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
@mpouraryan It depends on where you are. 

At least in the US, I still feel like there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. If the tides were to change, I think people would at least express their displeasure. 

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mpouraryan
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7/24/2017 3:35:26 PM
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I wish I shared your optimism..and since we're on the subject of Google/Alphabet, it is earnings week folks....Alphabet is on tap as I saw this on BigCharts that will be intersting as it appears that the EU Fines will have a marked impact on Earnings--and apparently Twitter and Amazon later on!!!



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/alphabet-earnings-a-274-billion-hit-for-google-potential-youtube-results-for-investors-2017-07-21?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

..but this does grant me some comfort:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nz7nbz/justice-scalia-digital-privacy-and-the-third-party-doctrine

Onward to August with all its' possiblities!!

:)

 

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afwriter
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7/29/2017 6:04:03 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops at Cybersecurity
No doubt there, the more data they can collect to sell the bigger they get. 

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srufolo1
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7/5/2017 9:51:55 PM
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Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
That Singapore beat out the U.S. in its cybersecurity approach is telling. The U.S. could learn something from this country.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
7/6/2017 9:17:50 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
@srufolo1 I'm sure there's a lot the US could learn from Singapore. 

But here's the thing: The United States is playing a LOT more offense and defense when it comes to cybersecurity than Singapore. So it's hard to take these findings as some sort of absolute. 

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mhhf1ve
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7/11/2017 7:20:40 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
> "The United States is playing a LOT more offense and defense when it comes to cybersecurity than Singapore."

Yup. I doubt any foreign nation is trying to interfere with Singapore's national elections... (digtally or otherwise) 

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freehe
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7/22/2017 10:38:11 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
@mhhf1ve, I agree. I have never heard of any country intefering with another country's voting process. This is only something the U.S. would say.

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afwriter
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7/29/2017 6:05:46 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
I'm sure it happens more than we know unfortunately. 

 

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mpouraryan
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7/20/2017 4:14:05 PM
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Re: Singapore Tops UN Cybersecurity Survey
..why is not the US at the forefront?   I do note, though, that US-CERT is doing a great job and at the start up I work for, The Daily Outsider, our team releases the weekly summary updates thru the Visions property--they are trying...

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afwriter
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7/5/2017 11:40:21 PM
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Can We Learn?
That's great and all, but I want to know how much they are willing to share so the U.S. can get their hands on some better security. 

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elizabethv
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7/6/2017 9:02:50 AM
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Re: Can We Learn?
@afwriter - In my opinion it would be in Singapore's best interest to share their advances in technology, if for no other reason than profit. 

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mhhf1ve
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7/6/2017 1:58:34 PM
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Re: Can We Learn?
> "I want to know how much they are willing to share so the U.S. can get their hands on some better security."

Singapore and the US are allies, and I know there are already some security partnerships for transferring Singapore's know-how to the US. However, some things just can't be replicated in the US. Singapore's citizens are accustomed to their freedoms being limited by their government -- but the US can't legally surveil residents (ahem, at least, post-Snowden). The US can learn, but not everything can be applied.

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afwriter
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7/5/2017 11:55:51 PM
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Is Cybersecurity a smokescreen?
Being the best at cybersecurity pretty much means that you have it figured out for today. The problem is that the bad guys come up with ways to get past security as fast as good guys can build the walls. Still, it would be nice to be the country with the least amount of security issues to worry about. 

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mpouraryan
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7/20/2017 4:24:58 PM
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Re: Is Cybersecurity a smokescreen?
There is no question it is problematic--but we have to be aware, cautious yet optimsitic.  This is in spite of the fact I have been personally been a victim of hacking.

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mhhf1ve
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7/12/2017 7:41:10 PM
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Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
Being a small island nation also has some unique hazards -- such as limited connectivity to the rest of the world when undersea fiber cables are cut (accidentally or otherwise). 

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/03/linode_says_several_cables_serving_singapore_cut/

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elizabethv
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7/13/2017 8:24:50 AM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
@mhhf1ve - that's an extremely valid point and one I never considered. Something to think about if that "living on a deserted island" thing ever pans out for me. Though connectivity might not be a high priority if that ever comes about.

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mhhf1ve
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7/13/2017 10:38:09 AM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
If you really want to live on a "deserted island".. I don't think you'd fit the profile for wanting a high speed internet connection. Unless you're Larry Ellison or Mark Zuckerberg.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/magazine/larry-ellison-island-hawaii.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-buys-700-acres-in-hawaii-for-more-than-100-million-2014-10

 

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Ariella
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7/18/2017 5:29:00 PM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
@mhhf1ve when you're that rich, you get to have your cake and eat it, too, so to speak.

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elizabethv
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7/19/2017 9:25:19 AM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
@Ariella - good point. Should I ever reach that level, by that time, I would imagine technology would have progressed enough to offer me seemless internet services..... Of course, since this is a fairy tale, I might as well also have the cash to ensure that will be the case. :-)

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Ariella
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7/19/2017 9:26:27 AM
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@Elizabethv Why not? if you're going to dream, you may as well dream big!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/20/2017 4:10:09 PM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
Singapore is not the only one--I always think about Estonia especially as we are witness to Russian Cyber Attacks.   We have to be as dilligent as we can--although not everything is under our control--is it? 

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mpouraryan
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7/20/2017 4:11:04 PM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
The broader question (and this is more of a policy question) is whether the internet is a right or a privilege--it should not matter where one lives--right? 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
7/20/2017 4:11:54 PM
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Re: Singapore is vulnerable in many ways, too...
Singapore is extremely unique in many ways--and how they have thirved in spite of the challenging region they've operated under is fascinating.  

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freehe
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7/22/2017 10:49:26 PM
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Data Breaches
According to the ITRC, over 14 million data records have been exposed. At least 838 data breaches have occurred so far in 2017. These statistics are alarming and shows that U.S. companies are still not doing enough regarding cybersecurity.

http://www.idtheftcenter.org/2017-data-breaches.html

 

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afwriter
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7/29/2017 6:02:17 PM
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Re: Data Breaches
Ugh, those are gross numbers. Thanks for sharing even though it's not happy reading.

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