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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 3:13:53 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
> "It starts with awareness."

Agreed. Very true. Let's hope it all works out -- (and we won't have AI taking over the world, in a bad way). :P

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 2:24:23 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
@mhhf1ve like all risks, you can't avoid them altogether, but you can do your best to manage and reduce them. It starts with awareness.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 2:21:41 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
Oh sure, I'm not against having the principles. And they will definitely be useful for figuring out what happened *after* something goes wronge. I'm just a bit concerned that nothing will help prevent a negative singularity.....

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 2:15:32 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
@mhhf1ve no guarantees for prevention, but the push for transparency can allow one to discover what went into the programming to remedy the problem. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 2:13:24 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
I have a gut feeling that says these AI principles would still not have prevented incidents like Google face recognition algorithm from labeling an African American person a "gorilla" -- because the path to that outcome wasn't something that could have been anticipated. Perhaps the transparency of training data principle might have given humans the opportunity to catch racial bias in training data, but.. it's not guaranteed. 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 12:55:42 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
@mhhf1ve sure, businesses have to do what's in their self-interest, but that doesn't prevent many from claimng far nobler motivation. Anywya to return to what IBM did say about its core principles, see http://www.techrepublic.com/article/3-guiding-principles-for-ethical-ai-from-ibm-ceo-ginni-rometty/

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 12:46:56 PM
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Re: Because distributions matter
The WSJ comments section looks a bit chaotic to me... any point(s) in particular that are interesting regarding the decision for a company to publicly speak out or not? It looks like many people are simply against billion-dollar companies angling for their own interests. That's not particularly enlightening, but I think it's interesting to see that Tesla wasn't on the initial list and now it's joined on.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 11:48:41 AM
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Re: Because distributions matter
@mhhf1ve The comments on the WSJ's article on the subject add some interesting points of discussion to the question of the companies' motivation to speak or not to speak, as well as that of presidents imposing travel bans. See https://www.wsj.com/articles/tech-firms-including-apple-google-fight-immigration-order-1486369396 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 11:25:50 AM
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Re: Because distributions matter
Heh. Interesting that the CEO of IBM has a public statement on the principles of AI (but not on the amicus brief filed against the travel ban).... Immigration of foreign AI could be a threat to national security, too. We'll probably need a ban on algorithms pretty soon.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/9/2017 10:00:33 AM
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Re: Because distributions matter
@mhhf1ve I believe they are intended for all contexts in which algoirhts will be applied to real life situations. This is a general concern today, especially given the rising adoption of AI. The CEO of IBM came out with a statement about the company policy on it, which also called for transparency. 

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