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freehe
freehe
11/17/2016 12:27:08 PM
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Virtual Reality
It is still viewed as a new technology and has not gotten much demand. There are so many other technologies that people are still getting used to, VR will take years for people to want as a technology in demand.

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Alison
Alison
11/17/2016 3:45:10 PM
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Re: Virtual Reality
Like 3D, the stumbling block today is its add-on hardware requirement. Once it can be more of a natural, group experience and people don't have to wear individual glasses or masks, VR will be more useful, fun and interesting. Right now, I personally don't have much interest in it because I can't be in the moment with it; you can share it after the fact or separately if, I guess, you're all in the same VR scenario simultaneously. 

For classroom training, you'd want EMT trainees to actually be in the ambulance, for example, seeing the injured patient, hearing the sirens and the screaming, feeling the patient's ragged heartbeat and so forth. And you'd want the team to interact, handing off scissors to cut off the patient's jeans and passing over the oxygen mask to stabilize his breathing. When we reach that point, VR will be huge - just think of the money it'll save, the numerous people it will reach and the flexibility it will provide organizations. Intense! 

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freehe
freehe
11/26/2016 1:21:56 PM
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Re: Virtual Reality
@Alison, great points.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/28/2016 8:35:34 PM
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Re: Virtual Reality
@Alison: Good points, Alison.

On the entertainment side, however, we watch video to watch things happen to other people.  It's the fundamental component of catharsis, and I don't see that seminal social human urge going away anytime soon.

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freehe
freehe
11/26/2016 1:23:50 PM
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Re: Virtual Reality
I think VR is great for training but in terms of emergency responders, doctors, medical professionals, engineers, scientists, teachers and counselors nothing beat real-life experience. Simulation is great but it doesn't account for variables, that's where real-life experience and trainings wins everytime.

 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
11/29/2016 11:09:38 PM
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Re: Virtual Reality
Good point. I definitely think being in real life situations are the best ways to prepare for those certain occupations, and most to be honest.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/28/2016 8:34:11 PM
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VR
I think the proper way to look at VR here is as a completely different medium.  People will consume it and engage with it completely differently than they do with standard video entertainment -- and the content for it has to be developed pretty differently too.

In short, VR video will no more compete with traditional video than reading books and going to see a play compete with each other.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
11/30/2016 9:46:21 PM
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Re: VR
> "VR video will no more compete with traditional video than reading books and going to see a play compete with each other."

100% Agreed. VR will be another form of content that will be separate from other forms like books, video games, movies, radio, TV, etc... Sure, maybe someday, just as movies and TV have merged, perhaps VR will blend and be nearly indistinguishable from other forms of entertainment/content (with just a difference of "production value").

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batye
batye
12/1/2016 1:15:45 AM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve I would say VR technology will be merged into everything soon as I do see heavy consumer interest in this technology... and it is a big factor...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/3/2016 2:35:59 PM
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Re: VR
Hm. I can't think of any examples where a new form of media immediately merged with older forms after introduction. VR might be trending now, but so was 3D TV not too long ago. Avatar is due for a sequel, but some hot technologies just don't take off. And they rarely merge with other media unless quite a bit of time has elapsed.

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batye
batye
12/3/2016 10:58:03 PM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve I could be wrong but I see almost everywhere everyone talking about VR and it great, big future... but time will tell... as yes 3D TV was a big hype... but now 4K :) ah technology and it waves...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/4/2016 4:27:19 AM
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Re: VR
Maybe if Augmented Reality merges with Virtual Reality then things will all combine as people "see" everything through tech-goggles. AR in my opinion has more potential than VR, but maybe there won't be a distinction in the near future.

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batye
batye
12/4/2016 4:43:08 AM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve I think you are right both of them would merge as it would make sense from technological point of view... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/4/2016 4:49:16 AM
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Re: VR
AR just has a minor problem with creepiness and privacy. Not sure how or if those issues will ever get resolved fully or if everyone will just learn to live with greatly restricted privacy and some invasive and constant data mining.

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batye
batye
12/4/2016 4:58:50 AM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve interesting point :) for me privacy is things of the past... I no longer expect any privacy anymore anywhere online or in real life... but time will tell what consumers want in exchange to have this technology...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/5/2016 4:37:01 PM
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Re: VR
> "I no longer expect any privacy anymore anywhere online or in real life..."

Wow. That seems like an extreme way to live, but I suppose we're trending in that direction. I'm not so comfortable with that kind of lifestyle because it seems more than a bit creepy. It's like an episode of Black Mirror coming to reality.

Augmented Reality could become so useful that everyone will forgo their privacy concerns (if there's anyone left that still has them!), but I guess I'm not that much of an early adopter.

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batye
batye
12/5/2016 10:25:29 PM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve our Canadian laws is a bit strange and we do have less privacy compare to USA citizens... but we have better healthcare.. 

in my youth days I work security and got good interactions with the cops and from what I know from last 10 - 15 years privacy things of the past in Canada... I just accept it... I'm not saying I agree or disagree - I just accept it as a way of life... New IT age...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2016 10:15:25 AM
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Re: VR
Batye, you should still be able to set up VPNd and Tor in Canada, right? Those things won't help much when everyone is walking around with live streaming cameras on their heads, recording everything and uploading it to the cloud for machine learning algorithms to process. The only way to retain privacy might be to go off the grid completely.

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batye
batye
12/6/2016 10:58:53 AM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve I know Icould do it :) but I do not bother about creating anonimity... as in my childhood days I spend time in Eastern Europe - where everyone watches everyone... it nothing new to me... I survive then... I will survive now... adaptability is a key... "say nothing see nothing you are no one with out name... :) " I just live it :) 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2016 9:18:29 PM
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Re: VR
> "everyone watches everyone.."

I wonder how "everyone watching everyone" will actually work in the Augmented Reality future.. People already post "Live" videos of themselves on Facebook and on Vine/Snapchat/etc -- so in a way, people are watching other people all the time (and occasionally those videos go viral).

I can't imagine how much "worse" things will be when AR/VR goes viral. Or maybe we'll all just be zombies watching VR kittens to calm our brains.... 

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batye
batye
12/6/2016 11:19:33 PM
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Re: VR
@mhhf1ve I see your point :) but in my mind VR and AR would live no privacy at all... but it techology way - How I see it :) I govern myself online the same way I govern myself in life... but I keep some of my ideas to myself :) only to myself... like back in 1980 in U.S.S.R.... history do take twist and turns and going back sometimes...

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/7/2016 2:23:30 PM
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Re: VR
batye,

Just saw this FindFace project -- that can identify people using photos. Combined with AR/VR goggles, and there's very little privacy left unless people stay "off the grid" and don't connect with anyone on Facebook or social media at all. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-06/the-russian-app-that-has-destroyed-privacy-forever

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batye
batye
12/7/2016 6:17:15 PM
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Platinum
Re: VR
@mhhf1ve this days it like Wild Wild West in Privacy almost everywhere... but Russia it other story... as in my mind I see it as the county runed by ex KGB Mafia with idea -  hellbend to destroy our way of life... with lot of hate towards West... why I do not know???... I do not hate anyone, nor I have pre judgment against Russians... I only feel sorry about them... as hate is not a way to live by... it sad very sad... it like Cold War all over again... it only my opinion... how I see it... as example let say if I disagree with my neighbor... I try to fing resolution/solution to the problem... I do not hate, nor have any idea to start the fight or threaten... I follow the laws of the land... and if push come to shove I go to court to resolve the problem... violence is not an answer to any problem... negotiation and understanding opposing party point is a key to communicate and resolve it... but I'm old traditional school :) of life:) ...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/31/2016 4:19:59 PM
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Re: VR
You definitely have better healthcare haha. But that's interesting I didn't know security was worse over there.

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batye
batye
12/31/2016 6:17:28 PM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 liberal gov. create liberal laws, hackers in Canada get away with almost anything... sad reality...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 2:17:14 PM
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Re: VR
Yeah I mean it's bad over here, but there are some consequences if they are able to be caught. That's the only problem..

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 1:15:10 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 yes and no as it depends on the country... in Canada it like free for all... sad reality...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 2:01:38 PM
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Re: VR
I didn't know that! Good to know, but definitely can be scary..

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 10:07:46 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 yes, it could be very scarry but it better to be prepared.... than keep head in the sand... preparation and knowledge is a key to survive :) - how I see it...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 10:44:27 AM
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Re: VR
Yeah I would rather take it on head on then pretend it's not happening. No help there..

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 3:02:01 PM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 yes as technology changing our reality what ever we liked it or not... I still regret not buying Virtual Boy

 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Boy  :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 11:54:53 AM
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Re: VR
Yes whether we like it or not it's changing quickly and we have to be able to face and embrace it!

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 3:50:55 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 this days it should be considered as a skill set - a must have ability... - how I see it...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/31/2016 1:39:23 PM
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Re: VR
I definitely think that having privacy online is becoming less and less realistic just because people can get into almost anything now a days..

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batye
batye
1/1/2017 6:05:18 PM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 for me it sad new reality... but I govern myself online same way I govern myself in real life... I have no naked selfies nor I'm in sexting with my wife... from time my accounts do get hacked... but if I have nothing inetersting in them :) lol :) few months ago my Scene.ca $200 worth of points got stollen - took three months to get them back... but privacy is thing of past...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 2:38:16 PM
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Re: VR
Yeah I guess at this point it's important for people to take care of their own privacy. You can't really trust your device to be "unhackable".

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 1:18:02 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 this day's I would not trust any device... as most of them could have spyware build in into OS by design... or add on during transporting/delivery to customer...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 2:02:17 PM
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Re: VR
Oh me either, absolutely not! It's so easy these days for people to get into anything really..

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 10:06:14 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 this days it like you must know someone in the field just to get your foot in the door as this is only way it seems... as too much competition... plus not many Co. hiring... but this is when you social skills come handy as this days Networking is a King... trust me :) as the more people you know the better chances you get... probability in the numbers..

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 10:43:46 AM
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Re: VR
Yes definitely! Knowing someone helps get you through the door without a doubt! And you're right networking and communication are key.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:58:34 PM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 for me I try to know as many people in the industry as possible asyou never know what connection will work out...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 11:52:51 AM
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Re: VR
Yeah because it can never hurt! Being able to network yourself out there is definitely important!

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 3:49:31 AM
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Re: VR
@dlr5288 yes, in my books it like a key to open doors... one way or other as you never know... 

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