until next time :) - thank you

Good day to all 

thank you

thanks!

Thanks!

Lots to cover in this area. I do hope we can get him back for another show later in the year. 

great info

Thanks for your input!

Thank you for sharing your insights!  Great information!

Thanks much... Look forwar to working with you all in transforming the network infrastructure and the industry... 

Yes companies have reservations about open source -- perforamnce, availability, and security. They will start to use it in less mission critical first and then slowly use in mission critical. A talk by PayPal Jigar at ONS was very good in this sense. 

OK, we're down to the final minutes. I think Guru may have time for one more answer, but I want to thank him again for being our guest, and thank all of you for joining today. 

Carrier grade open source? Yes of course with a caveat -- service providers are not looking for five nines for each component of their infrastrucure. They like cloud providers are focusing on high availabiity of their services but willing to take a chance with individual components.. And as pioneers demonstate use of open source and ability to create new servcies, the industry will change quickly. 

Open Source

@guruparulkar, some companies still believe Open Source is too risky to use in their environment. What are a few good ways to use Open Source and ensure your enterprise remains secure and stable?

Good question DHagar. 

Question from farther below: Do service providers need to be convinced that open source can be carrier grade?

"What do you see as the greatest barriers to this moving" -- what is "this" -- open source or CORD or something else? 

What do you see as the greatest barriers to this moving beyond a trend and becoming a key architecture for the future?

Future trends in open source? More open source projects and then we will have a typical market for open source projects -- competition; some will succeed. Others will fail. Some will merge wiht others and so on. 

no an easy task 

@guruparulkar, Guru, What do you feel are the future trends in Open Source?

I am biased because I work with some but I will say AT&T, Verizon, NTT, SK Telecom, China Unicom, China Mobile are some of them...

Guru, how about this one:

Can Guru cite any service providers he sees as pioneers in this network transformation area? 

And recongnition of a problem is the first step. They all want to transform their companies to software and services companies and it will take time but they are getting on that path and need community's help.

It is also an opportunity to help them...

thank you

interesting 

Actually yes the cultural transformation is very important and difficult to do for service providers. Good news is that they recognize it...

@Mike Robuck, sure, no problem.

Can Guru cite any service providers he sees as pioneers in this network transformation area? 

Excellent session - thanks!

Thanks for the links freehe

OK, we're all set to go here. Guru, can you discuss the cultural transformations that need to take place at service providers to enable open source?

Nice job Mike & Guru!  Good information in there. 

Great interview!

Thanks, Guru and Mike. Very interesting show on a key topic.

Thanks

For those interested in contributing to the CORD project http://opencord.org/community/

For those interested in contributing to ONOS http://onosproject.org/community/

yes, thanks for posting!

Here is a great article on ONOS and Capex

http://www.e-side.co.jp/okinawaopendays/2014/document/12_Guru-Parulkar.pdf

How can one contribute to the Open Source project?

Sorry if already asked - are vendors coming around to the idea that embracing initiatives such as CORD can help GROW their business? Rather than threaten?

Poll Answer:  All of the above

Wow, they asked my question during the interview. :)

@MikeRobuck, poll answer - all of the above.

I saw an E-CORD demo this week - using combo of switches, disaggregated optical modules, ONOS and VNFs... it was really quite impressive

Is the potential for saving money with CORD higher around capex or opex?

@Michelle, I agree - about standards.

Poll question _ I actually think the big roadblock will be convincing network operators that open source can be carrier grade and that external support will be available

Mmm, possibly vendors pushing proprietary stuff. How many are really committed to openness?

@faryl, the article hasn't been published yet but I will share when it is. Thanks!

I've gotta run - I'll catch the archive version to hear the rest of the show. Thanks for the great show so far!

Standards are good as are standards bodies - but too many not so good

Poll answer: All of the above

Poll: All of the above - or at least the perceptions that the first two options are issue, paired with the second.

What are the capabilities providers need to be successful in open source?  And how are they different from today?

I agree. AT&T and other providers need to collaborate and develop standards to implement competition versus having a monopology on open source.

I think it should be the smaller or second tier telcos embracing such open source initiatives like ONOS to gain agility and reduce capex/opex. But currently only the giant ones are in ONS. Hopefully, this speads to many more telcos.

poll time: 

What do you see as the biggest roadblock to enabling open source?

Too many open source groups

Too many standards bodies

Large vendors promoting closed proprietary systems?

All of the above?

Michelle, I am with you on silos

So the benefits of multiplicity of platforms in open source mirror those in the proprietary platforms - variety and options are good; too many becomes problematic.

freehe - sounds fascinating, it would be great to share your article - great topic.

Jumping in late here, but can Guru talk at all about how the cable industry is looking at trends similar to CORD?

Removing silos is sooo good

Can you share your vision of what you see and what the market will be like in the next 5-10 yea

Loving this discussion. I wrote an article about using Open Source wtih streaming analytics.

Who are the current leaders?

Yes, I so agree, you cannot just use Open Source, that is only one part of the entire enterprise.

I am so glad he said we need standards for Open Source. Good point.

63 degrees in Washington DC.

What is the status of standards that support open source platforms?

How do you convince CEOs that CORD is beneficial to their business?

What are the biggest challenges in transitioning to CORD?

Can Guru quantify in any way the impact CORD could have on service provider economics?

No snow here in San Diego either :-)

How serious is the risk to open source from proprietary technologies? Would Guru say it is becoming a bigger threat and if so why?

Good thing you weren't flying out of DIA, Gary

I'm listening from Texas. No snow here today. Sunny and bright.

Southern California

Denver - clear today, 17 inches ofsnow yesterday

Listening in from damp old London.

How do you see pricing models changing as a result of Open Source?

Ok. Folks. Time for the live questions in a few minutes. Start sending in your questions. I will try to get through as many as I can and those we don't get to on the show, we will try to answer on the post-show chat.

Test... I am here.

Looking forward to today's show.

We're just under 15 minutes away

Waiting for the  presentation

Very excited to hear Mike and Guru discuss SDN, NFV and open source!!

Good afternoon everyone!  Remember to turn up your volume on the computers.  At the top of the hour an audio player will pop up on your screen.  If you don't see it, try to press F5 to refresh your screen. Remember, there's no slides for this it's just a discussion, so be sure to post your questions, comments and thoughts on the message boards and we will join you on the chat after the audio stream. 

Thanks for posting a countdown to the show -- very helpful! Looking forward to it. 

Great topic, waiting for the show.

Look foward to the show tomorrow....

Hi Guru

We're counting down to tomorrow's show. Have those questions ready for Guru.

Looking forward to this. It will be interesting to see how On.Lab's projects help open up opportunities for developers as an alternative to AWS and similar services.

dhagar - sounds highly informative - looking forward to it.

yes, should be interesting 

I will be watching.

Looking forward to it.