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DHagar
2/22/2016 9:45:03 PM
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Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
Mike, that is interesting. I would believe that more and more telecoms will move that direction and see the benefits.
What markets does Saudi hold and are they a leading platform for multiple telecom services or are they primarily using it for their own network to deliver better telecom services?
I am wondering who, beyond Huawei, are the leading international telecoms? Do you see segmented markets forming or, as a result of VNF and Open Stack, larger international platforms?
jbtombes
2/22/2016 11:17:19 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
Modest win. According to Iain's article, Saudi Arabia has 35k businesses. That would be about as many as a state like Idaho. With less than 100 large enterprises - whatever that means precisely - currently taking the IaaS offer. But you gotta start somewhere, i suppose.
Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
It's not huge, but something in the win column for OpenStack. It was an earlier leader and the luster seemed to be wearing off at some point.
DHagar
2/23/2016 2:00:40 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
Mike, thanks! Sounds like a win-win for everyone! Those are the success stories I like to hear.
batye
2/23/2016 7:27:47 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar yes it always nice to hear it :) as technology should be used to improve people lifes...
DHagar
2/24/2016 1:29:58 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
bayte, good points. I also believe that they play the game for the long run, which includes improving people's lives, building infrastructure, etc. I think this is in keeping with their culture.
batye
2/24/2016 3:18:55 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar thank you, life is too short, and if things done right and properly it gives better chances of having less problems for the long run... - how I see it :)
DHagar
2/23/2016 1:58:46 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
jbtombes, well exactly - they are small. That's why I was wondering what their vision is. Also, if they are the predominate player in that regional market, that makes sense. The only disrupter will be an international player that provides a complete platform and better choices.
They are building an effective design, though, and are smart to be using OpenStack.
batye
2/23/2016 2:42:49 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar interesting but they do have money to spend... how I see it...
DHagar
2/23/2016 4:05:52 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
bayte, very true. They are not your typical developing country. They are a "rich" developing country. That should give them some key advantages. Plus, as I understand it there is wealth in the country itself - so this should give them the potential of a profitable market.
batye
2/23/2016 7:24:44 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar yes it like they have better starting point... but there is so many factors in play... and they do like to spend money....
Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@batye:
but there is so many factors in play... and they do like to spend money....
I agree there could be many factors to consider. Besides they like spending money, They have money to spend. That actually makes this whole thing more promising.
Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar:
Absolutely, They are a RICH developing country.
I believe this is good move on their end. Though it is limited to their domestic market at this time, there is a huge potential to get into profit mode and may eventually get into global market. This looks like a huge possibility considering their affordability to invest.
DHagar
2/24/2016 1:32:51 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
ms.akkineni, and they are accustomed to playing in the global marketplace, so they do have good experience there.
I would also believe that probably the connectivity and consumer use of telecom internationally may actually be greater than in the US - as this provides more means of communication and entertainment. They may position themselves on the front of a growth curve.
Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@DHagar, Absolutely. It is interesting to know about consumer use of telecom.I don't think it will be too long of wait before we hear something big from them.
batye
3/1/2016 3:12:29 AM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@ms.akkineni I would say, yes in few months we gonna hear something :)
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 7:09:11 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
> "Saudi Arabia has 35k businesses..."
This isn't a huge market, but it's interesting as a test case for what can happen in a smaller, up&coming market. Saudi Arabia is diverisifying its industrial portfolio (or at least trying to) since most of its businesses have historically been related to or supporting its oil industry. It'll be fascinating to see how (or if) Saudi Arabia can overcome the "resource curse" that has plagued many oil-rich nations.
batye
2/23/2016 7:15:08 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@mhhf1ve yes, it interesting to see... as most of the oil rich countries stick with the oil...not IT...
Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
@mhhf1ve:
I believe that is what it looks like. THis probably could be more like their pilot phase before they can go big.
DHagar
2/24/2016 1:27:58 PM
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Re: Saudi Telecom on OpenStack
mhhf1ve, yes this will be a new proposition for them - but they seem prepared to take on the new challenge. I predict they will be quick studies and learn to compete effectively.
Obviously they are accustomed to smaller more controlled markets, as you point out, but they have the resources and seem ready to learn new ways to compete. We will see how far that motivation takes them.
afwriter
2/22/2016 10:41:43 PM
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Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
It is no secret that the entire world is trying to move away from the use of oil which has made this region rick in money and assets. It makes sense that they would use some of that money to diversify into an area that has unlimited growth potenial.
I am wondering how much more news we will see coming out of that region in the next few years when it comes to both software and hardware.
DHagar
2/23/2016 2:03:42 PM
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Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
afwriter, great points. As a developing region it would make sense to diversify; particularly now with the deflation in the price of oil.
As I understand it, Israel also has built some strong technology capabilities and is advancing their position in the marketplace.
afwriter
2/23/2016 5:07:21 PM
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Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
@Dhagar You are right, Israel is one to watch as they are making major technological leaps across the board. That is awesome for the US since we will most likely benefit from any of their breakthroughs.
DHagar
2/23/2016 5:23:36 PM
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Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
afwriter, thanks for confirmation. That is good news. It appears that we should keep an eye on the markets in the Middle East and look for opportunities.
batye
2/23/2016 7:13:32 PM
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Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
@afwriter yes, as they use technology and brains... plus a lot of they technology came from the military or could be used for military... but I could not agree more Israel IT sector keep growing rapidly...
Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
@DHagar:
Israel also has built some strong technology capabilities and is advancing their position in the marketplace...
I can only foresee promising developments from Israel knowing the key strengths of the country - Skill and hard work. We see that is being clearly demonstrated to a major extent if you think about their role in NYC wall street companies.
DHagar
2/24/2016 1:35:34 PM
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Re: Saudi' Moving Into a New Era
ms.akkineni, very good points about the industrial culture of Israel. That is a strength.
I predict they may be a strong player in the market. They also have infrastructure and background in military and defense, also industries that have been in the past behind our technology advancements.
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