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elizabethv
elizabethv
2/10/2017 8:23:40 AM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
@srufuolo1 - Oh they know what you're looking at when you're not on Facebook. And they definitely carry it over to your Facebook to remind you of it. And you did agree to it, you probably just didn't notice, because it was a required part of downloading the app/signing on to Facebook as a user. It's in the small print. We have all signed our lives away to the technology gods..... 

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dcawrey
dcawrey
2/9/2017 3:20:43 PM
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Re: Violation of Privacy
This is a bit scary. Because companies like Netflix and Facebook collect so much data, it seems like others now think it's all okay to just take personal data. 

I can say I'm not a fan. We haven't seen the implications of all our personal data being exposed to these companies. 

But someday I think we will. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2017 2:19:29 PM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
Did anyone see how much $$ Vizio might have gained from the sale of the data they collected? If it was more than the court-ordered fine, then that's not really a disincentive for any other company to try this kind of sneaky data collection. 

I assume Vizio didn't actually turn a profit from this, and the damage to its reputation might hurt its bottom line, too.

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vnewman
vnewman
2/9/2017 1:36:18 PM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
Wow!  How embarrasing for them!  I just checked the privacy statement on Vizio's website and it looks like the last time it was updated was December 10, 2016 - I wonder what it said before this.  It appears they share a great deal of information with third-parties.  If you don't connect your TV to the internet, then I guess you don't have to worry about it.  But, by default, if you do,the feature is automatically turned on.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/8/2017 2:15:02 PM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
@elizabethv Of course they will have to punish the little guy, like Vizio, first for what the big guys have been doing all along. I don't ever remember Facebook asking my permission for anything! Yet, I get all kinds of ads. It's scary because sometimes it's like they know I was on a particular site, for example, searching for appliances. Suddenly, that very refrigerator from Sears pops up on my site. So weird ... and unnerving. Sometimes it seems like I am entrusting Mark Zuckerberg with my whole life.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/8/2017 2:09:13 PM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
@dmendyk True, and it pissed my sister off because she lives in the "nice part of town" and it gives NJ a bad image. That and that other show, what was that called, "Jersey Shore," because she also has a beachhouse in the area where they filmed that garbage, and she said, "Why can't they ever show the genteel side of life" on "Reality" shows? I said because that wouldn't sell!

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dmendyk
dmendyk
2/8/2017 9:37:34 AM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
There was an epic fairy tale produced by HBO about North Jersey not too long ago. It was called The Sopranos.

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Adi
Adi
2/8/2017 5:57:16 AM
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Re: Got our back
Your tax dollars at work, dmendyk. Many thanks, from all of us.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
2/8/2017 5:05:27 AM
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Regulations
It will be interesting to see the kinds of regulations put in place moving forward to protect people from companies trying to get information to sell for marketing purposes, while also working with companies to collect that information. There is a balance between an individual's right to privacy, and the needs of a company that will have to be met and it may not be as easy as it seems. Regulating telco in general probably always presents conflicts between the rights of businesses and the rights of people. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
2/8/2017 4:54:41 AM
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Re: Spying Not So Smart on TVs
@srufolo1 - I'm sure TV manufacturers will come up with a way to legally collect the informaiton. And it will probably be just as sly as the way Facbeook gets it. Have some kind of disclaimer or waiver you sign right when you turn the TV on the first time, to "setup" your features, and  you will unintentionally sign away the rights to what you watch. I think it's so funny that my brother refuses to use Facebook because one of the initial waivers you sign asks for permission to access informaiton in your phone - but he uses other apps that ask the exact same permission. 

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