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jbtombes
jbtombes
2/19/2016 5:45:07 PM
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data centers?
Any word on their data center strategy. Windstream got out late last year, at about the same time that VZ reportedly was considering exiting. It's sort of the other half of virtualization discussion - where are all these instances actually going to reside? 

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vnewman
vnewman
2/22/2016 3:21:09 PM
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Re: data centers?
Announcing something like this ( "CenturyLink Sees 100% Virtual IP Net by 2018.") is like the kiss of death.  Research has shown typically that announcing goals like this means you are less likely to realize them.  I love the Ted Talk on this topic: https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself?language=en

 

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batye
batye
2/23/2016 7:58:32 PM
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Re: data centers?
@vnewman interesting observation, thanks for a link :) 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 8:23:40 PM
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Re: data centers?
> "Research has shown typically that announcing goals like this means you are less likely to realize them..."

Do goal announcements for organizations/companies (instead of individuals) actually follow the same kind of outcomes? I would assume not, since there are several announcements that companies make that investors would hold leadership accountable for if they weren't met. 

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vnewman
vnewman
2/24/2016 5:05:01 PM
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Re: data centers?
@mhhf1ve - I guess we will have to wait and see how it all plays out to know for sure.  I just feel like statements like this can be very arbitrary.  I think if the statement included the factors considered when choosing this percentage as a goal would help explain, but at the outset, it just looks like a number pulled from the sky.

But in this case, as far as virtualization goes, I don't think there are any ramifications if they don't meet this level - certainly not from any shareholders/investors.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/25/2016 12:20:56 AM
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Re: data centers?
@vnewman: Interesting.  I've seen more social research that shows the exact opposite: That our need to be consistent -- particularly with our commitments (and especially if those commitments have been written down and/or publicized) -- drives us quite powerfully to do what we say we will do.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/25/2016 12:17:14 AM
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Re: data centers?
@jbtombes: If Moore's Law stays true long enough, maybe we can have those instances reside on storage drives small enough to evaporate into a literal cloud!  ;)

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/23/2016 8:34:32 PM
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Not following the herd?
Not every telco/CSP needs a datacenter strategy, but the ones that are committed to virtualized datacenters have a longer term outlook -- and better odds of diverisfying their revenue streams, as long as they stay committed. 

Datacenter operations are notably difficult for margins. Amazon and other big cloud infrastructure players aren't really known for making a ton of money from selling datacenter services in a crowed and commoditized industry like datacenters. But if a company's datacenter operations can really innovate and find a niche to fill in the market, it's not like the industry is going away anytime soon.... and there's a certain amount of lock-in that can be created. It's not easy, but it can be done. 

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batye
batye
2/23/2016 10:21:25 PM
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Re: Not following the herd?
@mhhf1ve it not easy but it could be done, but it also depends what is the grand plan... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/24/2016 12:03:31 PM
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The Cloud
Everything is moving to the Cloud and it makes me feel uneasy. I thought it was interesting when asked about the new things that they're working on, one was making sure the Cloud was reliable and has enough storage.

I can only hope that in the future companies who endorse and use the Cloud have mad it a ton safer and more reliable to use. I myself don't like using it too much because I never know if my information will always be kept safe.

I think it's great that they want to learn about the Cloud more and really enhance it to make it better and safer to use. I only hope that they are able to do it.

 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/25/2016 12:15:41 AM
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Re: The Cloud
Data protection concerns certainly abound, but I don't think many people are worried about the cloud having enough storage these days (at least, in general -- that may certainly be the case with certain providers/datacenters).  With Moore's Law showing no lapse for the forseeable future, storage is going to continue to get smaller and more affordable.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/25/2016 11:32:25 AM
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Re: The Cloud
Yes 100%! Security is important, but the storage is becoming smaller and smaller. The consumers will want the cloud to contain enough storage. I can talk from personal experience that storage is a big issue because some of my devices run out of storage so quickly it amazes me.

But you're right. They don't seem to be so concerned with storage as they should be. Security is obviously important, but if the storage is low what's the point?

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/26/2016 3:06:57 AM
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Re: The Cloud
That's so funny to me.  Not once have I had a storage issue on any of my devices in the past 10+ years.

But then it's not like I have much for audio or video files (absent some games).

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/25/2016 12:25:11 PM
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Re: The Cloud
@Joe. S:

You are absolutely right. I don't see any concerns around storage capacity for cloud. Rather there is a big concern with security aspect of data.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/26/2016 3:08:04 AM
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Re: The Cloud
@ms.a: Sure, but what's more secure?  Your local datacenter guarded by a rentacop, or datacenter owned by IBM, Amazon, or Microsoft that's likely guarded by armed guards with the very best in equipment and training?  ;)

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/25/2016 12:23:14 PM
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Re: The Cloud
Yes, that is a big dilema. It is very refreshing and exciting to hear about all techonological advancements. When it comes to reality, how comfortable an average consumer is in terms of adapting that? When it comes to Cloud, it is a constant back and forth thinking about how secure information is. But not exactly sure what is required for customers to make them feel and ensure that their information is safe.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/26/2016 3:09:20 AM
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Re: The Cloud
@ms.a: Personally, it has been my experience that the "average consumer" is very adaptable.  You simply tell them how it's going to be, and if they want your service or product enough, you have their business.  This is why social networks like Facebook continue to dominate despite privacy concerns.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/27/2016 1:24:06 PM
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Re: The Cloud
Yes that's true. It's a constant back and forth between security and keeping up. I think for the most part companies are willing to take the risk of security simply because they don't have a choice.

They had to incorpoarte the cloud because they need to compete with everyone and the cloud is the newest thing right now. Even though security is a huge issue still among the cloud. It's a risk that has to be taken.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/27/2016 1:47:02 PM
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Re: The Cloud
Yeah great point. Storage is important, but it's also about the consumer feeling safe with their information and being able to have privacy. If only there was a way to wake the cloud more secure.

I know that the cloud is safer now than it was in the past, but there's always that chance that someone might be able to hack in or information might get out. It's obviously a huge issue with the cloud.

I think that security and storage are both huge important factors and shouldn't be overlooked. 

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batye
batye
3/1/2016 3:27:34 AM
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Re: The Cloud
@dlr5288  I could not agree more... as security of storadge/data never a simple or easy task...  for me it never safe or 100% secure...

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