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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/10/2018 10:52:24 AM
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5G Replacing Home Services
Overall I really don't know what to think about 5G but it a be a good thing and in a way bad but as far as the good part they will a a valuable asset for companies that use it but I think only time can tell going forward.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/10/2018 1:08:36 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
> "... it will be hard to compete with unlimited fixed wireless service for any significant usage."

The value of copper lines is going to plummet... And next-gen satellite wireless services are on the way, too. Data caps are going to be pretty annoying, though. 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/10/2018 6:04:32 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mhhf1ve, great assessment!  I share with you that satellite may be a key source.  But I also believe the ultimate decisions will be made around the business models for pricing and beneficial consumer access (ie data caps, etc.). 

If we limit 5G to the speed advantages alone, I think it will be a slow development.  If we create new services and smart pricing that change or transform telecommunications, it might take off?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/10/2018 6:17:11 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
> "... business models for pricing and beneficial consumer access ..."

Those business models may include content bundling as well -- since more and more ISPs are getting into the media business. T-mobile is starting to produce content, and Comcast/Verizon/AT&T have already acquired media giants. Net neutrality will be an interesting puzzle if it isn't upheld.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/10/2018 6:34:43 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mhhf1ve, I think you are right!  I expect, and hope, that there will be new combinations that will result in better options.  And you are very correct - the net neutrality piece will obviously advance and/or diminish the options based on the level of regulation that results from the prevailing ruling.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/17/2018 8:29:49 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
It is nice to see the true possiblities at hand--and it is not a question of if, but when no doubt.   The challenge is the technology to be one of sustainability. 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/18/2018 5:21:58 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, good point.  Yes to provide sustainable value to truly enable the transformation to a new reliable capability is required in order for customers to move from one form to another.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/19/2018 2:54:23 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
I remain optimsitic despite the profound challenges at hand--easier said than done no doubt.  

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2018 7:12:09 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, well said.  But the desire is there and I believe the majority understand the benefits waiting for keeping pace with the new demands in telecom.  I think that is one of the new frontiers!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/20/2018 1:56:21 AM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
It is for sure a dream to aspire to--the question is whether the existing players will embrace a true sense of change?

 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/17/2018 8:30:26 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
They already are--Look at Verizon, Comcast and what they've done--so we're already here--right?

 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/17/2018 8:31:26 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
Satellite is a "nice to have".    Can it be sustainable, though?  Something I mentioned when visiting others....

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/18/2018 5:24:08 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, I think that is a question we all have.  I see satellite as a viable option going forward.  I believe the newest versions with more highly sensitive communication designs are capable.  When that is proven, I believe it will attract a healthy market.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/19/2018 2:55:19 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
Is it cost effective enough, though?  And how can it be sustainble?  that's the key question I continue to have....

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/19/2018 3:22:01 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
...as I leave you all w/this "Food 4 thought":  https://tinyurl.com/y7x2vdvf

 

 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/19/2018 3:34:52 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
I think there's a lot in this country that isn't sustainable. But I'm not convinced that businesses in general are concrened with long term sustainability when short term massive profits are presented. 

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batye
batye
4/19/2018 7:50:29 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@elizabethv yes, you are right but this days many Co. only look at  todays bottom line... but hope this trend start changing... 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/20/2018 1:55:14 AM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
As the focus of this community we've deliberated has been "transformation", we have to be the agents of change to leverage technology in the right way for this--when, for instance, I read about enzymes being developed that would eat up plastic (beyond the scope of our discussion in an abstract way) it seems to me that we have it within our power to make it possible.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
4/20/2018 6:02:32 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, great perspective.  That is a decision we can all make - to make things better or leave them the same; ignoring problems is a decision to leaving things the same.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/19/2018 7:14:33 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, it will depend on the design, the packaging, and the pricing, I believe. 

I think the answer will come in more strategic deployment, in alignment with demand, with more options that will finetune the offerings.  If the right mix is found, that should be sustainable.  Plus the size of the markets and the new options to serve them will factor in.

Great opportunities, though!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/20/2018 1:57:36 AM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
How do you then envision the increased commodization of it all as to how all seem to be increasingly "Amazon'd" :)



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DHagar
DHagar
4/20/2018 6:08:34 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan, our markets are not centrally controlled so they go through cycles.  When they become commoditized, that is not always a bad things, that just means there is a system in place that provides a major product or service - there is also the unique brand of Apple.  But the customer will evaluate utilities and commodities - which are usually looking for the lowest price (ie Walmart).  When they want brand or specific valued features they pay for those (ie Apple, Starbucks, etc.).  But the customer creates the markets by their demands and choices in services and products; but no one controls the market.

That leaves the door open to "new" transformations and products/services that give customers new choices.  When that succeeds you have a market demand.  Note:  No one controlled customers with Apple iPhones, or Facebook pages, or You Tube, or Netflix.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/27/2018 4:22:16 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan - I theorize that Amazon's latest announcement (that they will be increasing the cost of Prime - again) is a sign that the empire isn't as strong, or impenetrable as they seem to believe. Because they certainly can't continue to hike up my yearly fee and think I'm just going to take it forever. In fact I already wonder if it's worth it. Especially with other services popping up that don't require me to spend so much money a year just to belong to their club. 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/27/2018 4:43:46 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
Only time will tell--there have been many mighty ones' who've fallen eventually--that's why only the paranoid survive!!
Onward!!



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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/28/2018 6:00:58 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
..and as I finish off a final visit here, I wanted to "book end" it with this...interesting times we live in no doubt!!

Onward:

Amazon to Deliver Packages to the Trunk of Your Car




What it is: Amazon has partnered with GM and Volvo on its new In-Car Delivery service for Prime members, which launched this week in 37 U.S. cities. Prime members with eligible GM or Volvo cars simply select In-Car Delivery at checkout, and can remotely block access to their cars via the Amazon Key app. Notably, Amazon couriers do not have direct access to the car -- the unlock command is issued through the car's connected systems (i.e. OnStar or Volvo on Call) as part of an authentication process. "We only actually do the unlock if it's the right person, right place, right car, right time," said Peter Larsen, vice president of delivery technology at Amazon, to The Verge.

Why it's important: Amazon Prime customers now have unprecedented control of how and when they receive their goods. What happens to last-mile delivery efficiency when robotics and delivery drone technology can outperform human couriers

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/29/2018 1:12:41 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mpouraryan - I saw that in an article! Not sure how crazy I am about giving a complete stranger access to my car. Maybe if for whatever reason I absolutely needed a package delivered to my vehicle I would just make sure I was actually present at the vehicle when they delievered it. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/19/2018 3:33:37 PM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mhhf1ve - We just bought a new house, and the entire neighborhood is wired for fiber optics. We have 1 Gig speeds, with no data caps. I have zero interest in any kind of internet that would come with a data cap. Though I would imagine it could be the telcos way of getting a lot of us back for cutting the cord. They can't do anything about our decision to get rid of cable for streaming. But they can limit the amount of internet we can use and jack up the price. Make us all wish we still had cable. 

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:31:37 AM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@elizabethv. Good points. I agree. I don't want any data caps either. I still have cable so hopefully cable doesn't experience any issues in the future. We have fiber optics in my city but not in every neighborhood.

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:21:57 AM
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Re: 5G Replacing Home Services
@mhhf1ve. I agree. I am not a fan of data caps. I suspect that commercial customers will not have data caps or will have the option to pay more to waive the data caps.

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Shaunn
Shaunn
4/18/2018 10:27:09 PM
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Will 5G?
5G has mostlly been presented as a question for a while now. Right now, I think it's best not to question it much if it hasn't done much so far. A better question may still be 'when will 5G do anything?' Potential is only potential; it needs more than that for application.

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:18:05 AM
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The Path to 5G
I am curious to se the roadmap for each company embarking on 5G. Will companies go from 4G to 4G Cat 4 to 4G LTE to 5G or go straight from 4G to 5G. I am happy with any increase in speed. I currently have 4G LTE is the speed is pretty fast. However, I would love to get faster speeds.

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:25:02 AM
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Data Caps
However, since the repeal of net neutrality, consumers willl probably be subjected to data caps. This will become a huge problem when streaming data especially with big events such as sporting events, political election updates, major natural disasters, major economic events, etc.

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:25:40 AM
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Impact of Data Caps
Advertisers place ads on search engines, apps and websites that stream data such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Data caps may result in a decrease in revenue since most consumers use Google or other search engines to view and search for information.

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freehe
freehe
4/21/2018 10:32:57 AM
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Satellite
When I saw the satellite images of my house and auto online I stopped being a fan of satellite. I don't like big brother watching me. I learned so much by reading the book Dragnet Nation that discusses the many ways the government and companies capture our information and watch our every move. It is frightening. I will stick with cable.

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