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Ariella
Ariella
3/21/2018 11:17:28 AM
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Re: 5G on Cars
MIT Technology Review ran a very interesting piece on the subject https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610459/when-an-ai-finally-kills-someone-who-will-be-responsible/?imm_mid=0fc116&cmp=em-data-na-na-newsltr_ai_20180319

"At the heart of this debate is whether an AI system could be held criminally liable for its actions. "

It then goes into the different aspects of intent and liability.

"Speeding is a strict liability offense," he says. "So according to Hallevy, if a self-driving car was found to be breaking the speed limit for the road it is on, the law may well assign criminal liability to the AI program that was driving the car at that time." In that case, the owner may not be liable.

Then there is the issue of defense. If an AI system can be criminally liable, what defense might it use? Kingston raises a number of possibilities: Could a program that is malfunctioning claim a defense similar to the human defense of insanity? Could an AI infected by an electronic virus claim defenses similar to coercion or intoxication?

These kinds of defenses are by no means theoretical. Kingston highlights a number of cases in the UK where people charged with computer-related offenses have successfully argued that their machines had been infected with malware that was instead responsible for the crime.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/21/2018 9:34:24 AM
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Re: 5G on Cars
@Ariella: My first thought exactly. Of course, what will really happen is there will be a period of "investigation", and it will be determined that the dead pedestrian was really the one at fault, and then it will go back to full speed ahead.

Not entirely unlike one of my predictions for a sister site: (link)

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afwriter
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3/21/2018 12:17:47 AM
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Re: 5G is still in the future
The first step to flying cars is finally being taken.

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/10/15/dubai-police-scorpion-hoverbike-video/

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/20/2018 11:33:35 PM
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Re: 5G is still in the future
Shaunn:

There is no doubt that we will see both in future, it will take time for sure. There needs to be good testing done in both models. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/20/2018 11:29:54 PM
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Re: 5G on Cars
@Ariella:

No, What i was wondering was if the driver had any chance to take over and prevent the incident that occured.

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norikachi006
norikachi006
3/20/2018 9:26:33 PM
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Re: 5G on Cars
it sure was will appear in the future near

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Shaunn
Shaunn
3/20/2018 8:43:58 PM
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5G is still in the future
Flying cars should have been done a long time ago. Autonomous cars seem alot closer, but 5G alone has proven to be very difficult on its own. I think both, though seemingly close, are still a long way into the future based on all the trouble of execution for each.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/20/2018 8:37:32 PM
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Re: 5G on Cars
@ms.akinneni you mean that the human driver does not have an ability to override? I thought that was the main idea in having human drivers on the cars being tested.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/20/2018 6:22:42 PM
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Re: 5G on Cars
@Ariella:

Completely agree. It was so unfortunate incident for Uber's autonomus cars. Any further efforts from Uber are suspended. This certainly will slow down the pace.

I was also thinking based on the news i heard about the incident, how there was no control by the driver when crisis was identified as there was a driver in the car though it was operating on auto mode.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/20/2018 1:21:25 PM
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Re: 5G on Cars
I think the fatal accident will slow some of the progress people anticipated for autonomous cars on the road.  It certainly put an end to Uber's tests. See https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/19/17139518/uber-self-driving-car-fatal-crash-tempe-arizona

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