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Ariella
Ariella
3/15/2018 4:42:10 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
@elizabeth so long as you enjoy what you get out of it, I'd say you got your money's worth. The only thing that could tempt me would be the quality of the pictures, but I'm still holding off.

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elizabethv
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3/15/2018 4:35:01 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
"people are still paying very high prices for the latest ones with all the bells and whistles."

 

@Ariella - That is certainly true. Even in a state where I've been considering taking a step back from technology for awhile, I still sprung and got the S8 when it came out. (Though I seriously owuld have reconsidered if I had realized ahead of time the charger isn't a traiditonal micro-usb.) I've spent more money trying to amass Type C USB chargers or adapters than I truly care for. Still it's a good phone, so it just is what it is. And what it is, is a lot of technology. Expensive (kind of) technology. 

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Ariella
Ariella
3/14/2018 9:24:44 AM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
<I think we're in a Red Queen's Race, where yesterday's hot new breakthrough is today's luxury option and tomorrow's basic feature — and priced and sold accordingly. >

@JohnBarnes I agree that is the general rule. There's a general correlation between the escalation of tech and the escalation of expectations. And, yes, for many things prices come down. Consider how a pocket calculator was considered a substantial purchase around 1980 but now can be picked up for just a couple of dollars. The funny thing about cell phones, though, is that even while some more basic styles drop down to the point of being considered "burner" phones (which would have been considered a significant piece of technology a decade or two back), people are still paying very high prices for the latest ones with all the bells and whistles 

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JohnBarnes
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3/13/2018 11:50:00 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
I think all of you are right (and that I am too, of course); Ariella is surely right that prices can keep rising as long as tech makes big enough steps forward each time, DHagar is right that branding is a big part of keeping the advances foremost in people’s minds, and afwriter is also clearly right that there has to be a limit somewhere. But still I think we’re in a Red Queen’s Race, where yesterday’s hot new breakthrough is today’s luxury option and tomorrow’s basic feature — and priced and sold accordingly.

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afwriter
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3/13/2018 10:20:25 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
I think that is true to an extent but there was a lot of pushback when it was announced that the iPhone X would break the $1,000 for the first time. People still bought them but there was more gripping than usual about the price. 

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DHagar
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3/13/2018 6:23:46 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
@Ariella, that is a great point!  That model holds true when you are talking about similar products, which results in the product becoming more of a commodity.  But today's markets, with "branded" products and services (i.e., Apple, Starbucks, etc.), the exclusivity of the features, brand, "experience", command and hold a high price and increasingly grow in value.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/13/2018 5:49:45 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
@JohnBarnes I don't know if that applies to Apple phones, though. They seem to just increase in price with each iteration. Consumers don't seem to cap what they'll pay for their beloved iPhones.

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elizabethv
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3/13/2018 5:27:11 PM
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@Ariella - thanks for sharing the link. It's good to know they have plans to venture into the 5G realm, perhaps they just haven't picked a provider yet to release with. Though my guess is they'll at least do T-Mobile, Verizon and either Sprint or AT&T. I'm sure even if they don't have their technology ready to go in time for the release of 5G with the major carriers, they won't be so far behind in the game that their brand will suffer any. 

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elizabethv
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3/13/2018 5:15:22 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
@John Barnes - that's a really good point, and I honestly didn't go and look at the price of the phones. Though people will definitely expect them to be cheaper, I fully do. And I certainly wouldn't pay anywhere near what I paid for my Samsung S8 for a phone that only allows me to text and call people. I guess the company is now releasing it's second "simple phone." So they can't be doing too badly. But time will tell I suppose. 

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JohnBarnes
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3/13/2018 2:34:24 PM
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Re: Spell USA With or Without 5G
ElizabethV,

The odd thing about tech is the reason that economics textbooks do their best to ignore it, even today: once a thing is possible at all, it very rapidly becomes much better, then much cheaper, and eventually becomes standard and almost mandatory.  Simplified cell phones won't actually be much cheaper (if at all) for manufacturers or telecoms, but consumers will expect them to be, so there's apt to be quite a bit of price resistance to them, and they will probably have a much lower profit margin.

The a la carte of deletion and opting out is very different from the a la carte of addition and opting in.

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