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Michelle
Michelle
4/9/2018 2:49:22 PM
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Re: Understatement
I guess that's as good a use as any. I wonder if they have any kind of connectivity with cell towers... I would think coverage is a plus if you want to attract even more film projects.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/5/2018 4:40:00 PM
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Re: Understatement
The "ghost towns" in China have been reported in several places. It's perhaps too early to say if these places are complete failures? I think a few of them have been used as movie sets as a backdrop for post apocalyptic plotlines.... 

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Michelle
Michelle
3/31/2018 11:57:27 PM
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Re: Understatement
Very interesting! I hadn't read about planning failure ghost towns. I suspect other countries would be in the dark about any failures in China for quite some time.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/12/2018 6:44:35 PM
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Re: Understatement
@JohnBarnes, very true!  But also very important is that it becoms a public asset, providing regional infrastructure.  Also, that it remains a shared asset that can support multiple users as opposed to a single dominating player that could profit from it.

Interestingly, it also appears today that you need more  public/private partnerships, due to the fact that there are still inadequate resources to pay for the costs (with limited public funding), and that private industry is needed to provide the capital to overcome the risks involved in the development of new infrastructure that is moving public/private enterprises into a new future - where there is financial risk.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
3/12/2018 2:57:38 PM
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Re: Understatement
Classically, that's one of the rationales for any government-backed economic operation: it's too important to fail and too risky for private capital, and very often both of those factors are rooted in sheer size, in scarcity of resources, in urgency, or some combination of all three.  Take classic "big government" projects in the US and they mostly fit that model -- the transcontinental railroad, the atom bomb, the moon shot, interstate highways, the big dams in the TVA and BPA, the B-29 bomber, the International Space Station, the St. Lawrence Seaway, even the Brooklyn Bridge and the Golden Gate.  At a reasonable guess, in the intensely managed Chinese economy, the government sees gaining an early lead in G5 as vital, and handed the job of making it happen to China Mobile.  The calculus now is no longer "bang for buck" but "quickest and surest way to acceptable outcome." 

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srufolo1
srufolo1
3/12/2018 10:06:36 AM
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China Mobile Stands Alone in Ambitious 5G Plans
Once again, China seems to be taking the lead in 5G technology with the announcement of its commercial standalone 5G network at MWC. I'm actually surprised China Mobile was so forthcoming in its plan, as, yes, what if it is a complete failure? 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/8/2018 6:51:15 PM
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Re: Understatement
> "They do claim security concerns, but economic concerns also seem to be an influence in the policy."

In this day and age, economic concerns *are* effectively security concerns. When economic collapses happen, it can lead to political unrest and government failure. I can just imagine that China and Russia were analyzing our Great Recession to see how resilient our economy was in 2009. If a similar economic panic and failure could be engineered, it would be "easy" to cause the fall of the US government -- especially if there's already political unrest. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/8/2018 6:46:11 PM
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Re: Understatement
> "Will the rest of the world ever even know?"

Failure might not last long. If there's enough funding and resources to keep pushing a Chinese version of 5G.. it will ultimately "succeed" by some measure. By the time other countries hear about a failure, the deployment might be on track to exceeding any other country's "success" even as a failure. 

There are supposedly some "ghost towns" in China, built from central planning failures. But does that take away from the successes in other cities? 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/8/2018 3:03:37 PM
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Re: Understatement
@vnewman: Well, you can't hide a dropped call. ;)

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vnewman
vnewman
3/7/2018 3:53:22 PM
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Re: Understatement
With China Mobile being largely owned and controlled by the Chinese government - what happens if these "ambitiious" 5G plans fail?  Will the rest of the world ever even know?

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