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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/28/2018 10:29:47 PM
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Edge vs central
I'm curious about the points of view driving any option other than "essential" or "useful" here... Almost everything is moving to the edge, and delivery of video -- because of the bandwidth and latency demands -- is crucial to that.

Of course, we are also very gradually approaching the blurring of the edge data center and the central data center as network operators seek to expand their central data center presence globally.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
3/23/2018 4:20:38 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Joe - I agree. I'm not sure why it would be anything but the top two choices. Outside of those I'd have to wonder if people were either not paying attention or didn't fully understand the poll. As a parent our kids, by-in-large are becoming far more entrenched in computer usage. My 1 year-old can't use my phone, but he knows it's important and he's very curious about it. My 3 year-old has his own tablet that he uses, but he's more than capable of using my phone as well. Despite being a parent who didn't want her kids to be entangled in a world of screens, there really is just no choice. My 5-year-olds reading is entirely on my cell phone. I literally have to hand him my cell phone so he can do homework. If the world of videos and data and data storage are important now, when the majority of adults never even touched a computer until they were in school. How important is all of this going to be when the majority of adults were raised teething on cell phones. 

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Shaunn
Shaunn
3/25/2018 5:58:24 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
Same here. All of the children in my family, especially the youngest, steam video for entertainment when there's nothing else to warrent their attention. Phones and tablets are like tv screens to them. If video is going to keep expanding to meet this increasing demand, it'll be forced into a more suitable structure like edge storage.

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batye
batye
3/26/2018 10:31:49 AM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Shaunn yes I see the same trend where youth using more phone and tablets/phablets than desktop PC or Laptops.... 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
3/27/2018 2:40:40 AM
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Re: Edge vs central
THe future has already arrived as epitomized by this very fact--I can't but wonder what the next level is going to be.     

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/30/2018 6:13:30 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Shaunn: While I tend to agree, to look at the opposite side for a minute... Edge has become so in demand that, I suspect, even central d/cs will become edge-hybrids of a sort.

Edge will eat the world, and if everything is edge, then nothing is edge.

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Michelle
Michelle
3/30/2018 1:43:03 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
Isn't it interesting how homework has shifted online like that? I have found at least one good thing in all the tech: Notes from teachers are soooo much easier to get and read now. Sending a note to a teacher is much easier too. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
3/30/2018 4:41:37 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Michelle - I never would have guessed how entwined education is to technology is anymore. I think it's handy that I can give my kid my phone while I'm driving (I'm not using it then anyway) and he can do his schoolwork while we're on the road. That's one less thing we have to worry about once we get home. But I really always imagined raising tiny little beings that didn't even know what a phone was until they were much older. And now that I'm actually in the game, I see just how impossible it is to avoid. I can't imagine what a parent would do with a 5 year old that had homework on a phone but the kid had never touched their phone. At least he knows exactly how to use my phone. 

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Michelle
Michelle
3/31/2018 6:42:31 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Elizabeth The speed that kids learn to use these mobile devices is really impressive. The operating systems are made to be easy to learn and kids seem like naturals in a very short time. Have you seen toddlers using a mobile phone? I have seen them be very careful when holding it AND they navigate to the app they want quickly.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/30/2018 2:39:46 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Michelle - Oh yes, my 3 year old can get into my phone and take a picture long before I even realize it's missing. (He butters me up because he always takes pictures of me, and then tells me I'm beautiful. His ability to charm his way out of trouble is a completely different topic. Lol.) Even my baby loves having my phone, and he doesn't even know why. He just wants my phone because he sees me with it. I tried giving him my broken kindle - he wasn't interested. The screen didn't do anything. I really thought it would work too!

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/30/2018 6:16:16 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Michelle: I don't like that! I remember in first grade one of my best friends and I got called on the carpet because we had been passing talking and giggling in class; the teacher gave us each a note to show to our parents.

But she didn't require that our parents sign the note or come in to talk or anything.

So the next day when she asked if we had shown the notes to our parents, I followed my friend's lead (she may well have been telling the truth, FWIW) and looked sheepish as I said, yes, I had shown my mother the note, and yes, she was upset by it.

I never showed her the note. I kept it in my jacket pocket. More than a decade later, my mom found the old jacket, found the note, read it, and we had a laugh about it.

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Michelle
Michelle
3/31/2018 6:48:37 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
@Joe Ahh, the fun of passing notes (and terror of them being read by the teacher). That's a great story!! I'm glad you didn't get in trouble when your mom finally got to see the note :D 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
4/9/2018 12:59:55 AM
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Re: Edge vs central
There's always a pendulum shift between doing things in a centralized way or a decentralized way. Mainframes used to be the big thing. Then PCs. Now the Cloud. Next the Edge. I'm sure it'll shift back to centralized quantum supercomputers someday. Then maybe back to decentralized devices interacting with spooky entangled connections.

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Michelle
Michelle
4/9/2018 2:57:44 PM
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Speaking of quantum computers and  spooky action at a distance -- have you read Teleportation: The Impossible Leap? It's a fascinating book that discusses the progress of quantum computing and potential futures. It was written a few years ago (2005) but we're not much farther along for daily use quantum computers so I think the book is still relevant.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
4/30/2018 2:45:01 PM
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@mhhf1ve - I think that pendulum swing is can be seen throughout technology as a whole. It really kind of depends who has the latest technology that seems to solve a problem for the time being. Apple is a fairly good example of this. They started as being "school computers." then disappeared for awhile. Then came back and were all the rage. At this point I think that rage has settled down, at least to some extent. They certainly have a cult-like menatlity among some users, but they no longer have the "god-like" status they once held. 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/30/2018 6:11:49 PM
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Re: Edge vs central
> How important is all of this going to be when the majority of adults were raised teething on cell phones.

Actually, might be a moot point, considering the reported widespread motor issues that young children are having because so many of them have almost never played with anything other than a mobile device. (See, e.g., here.)

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