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elizabethv
1/26/2018 9:08:15 AM
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A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
"AT&T claims it will launch mobile 5G in 12 markets by late 2018,"
This should be interesting. Personally I feel like AT&T has been all over the place lately. Like they're trying to get into every corner they can find. I suppose it's a tactic, I just don't know how good of one it is. Do a bunch of things so-so or do a few things really well. Good or bad, at least in my opinion, the former seems to be what they're going for.
afwriter
1/26/2018 11:47:58 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
12 markets is also not a whole country. Obviously, the U.S. is much larger than South Korea but if we are asking which country will have total coverage first it seems fairly obvious.
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@afwriter: Indeed, there are many parts of the US that don't even have reliable broadband or cellular coverage now.
DHagar
1/30/2018 4:12:39 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@Joe, we have not "needed" this link for communication in the US - we have had other choices. Plus we have not had a single "design" for US strategy on digital networks - although it appears President Trump is considering one!
So our options for upgrading are greater, whereas other countries will be able to leapfrog their development and not have to navigate the US public/private architectures. I bet we pick up speed in the future though!
Great survey and info, Sarah!
afwriter
1/30/2018 9:58:55 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@Dhagar I think you hit the nail on the head with "not have to navigate the US public/private architecture" and there is also the size and a wide array of geography and weather in the U.S. and all o that plays a factor in infrastructure. I have to say that your idea is probably number one though.
vnewman
1/30/2018 11:56:15 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
Fantastic read from Fortune:
http://fortune.com/2018/01/30/national-security-council-nationalized-5g-proposal/
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@vnewman: I think the media commentary is misleading. Government's role will likely remain limited to the allocation of the spectrum and if the past is any guide, the US does well there and recovers from an initial lag in adoption. The real issue is trade reciprocity. The comment about the reservation of 70 percent of the Chinese market to domestic companies is the pointer to the administration's intentions.
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@Kishore: Indeed. After all, we're talking about a mere proposal. An idea. Put forth by the National Security Council -- an entity whose very existence is dedicated to the idea of national security before all else.
When put in this context -- which the headlines and tweets don't make explicit -- the "news" of this proposal (and that's all it is) isn't actually surprising at all.
mhhf1ve
2/1/2018 2:24:09 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
A nationalized 5G network would be complicated -- especially since most of the "good" spectrum" has already been auctioned off to private companies. The government has some military spectrum -- and there's maybe some "citizen band" spectrum -- but that's probably nowhere near enough to handle a true 5G network (with current wireless technologies).
That said, I'm not surprised that the "proposal" exists -- I'm sure policy makers try to cover all bases of what they could potentially do. And they throw out the outlandish ideas that would never work. like a nationalized 5G network...
DHagar
1/31/2018 6:58:31 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@afwriter, thanks! We just have to do some better thinking about what bridges to build on and what design and architecture will move us forward; as opposed to a zero sum game.
batye
2/3/2018 1:05:53 AM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@DHagar could not agree more in my books it must be done as true step forward not a lip service what many Co. keep offering this day, while playing game wait and see...
DHagar
2/5/2018 5:18:47 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@batye, exactly! We have to think and make thinking a preferred solution to our problems!
I am afraid, as this poll points out, that we may not be thinking as much as we have at various times. It's time to think again!
That is what Telco Transformation is all about!
mpouraryan
2/5/2018 11:36:01 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
Remember, though, thinking has to lead to action--that's the key. This is why what I felt this article 4 be so critical in the broadest sense:
https://hbr.org/2018/01/as-ai-makes-more-decisions-the-nature-of-leadership-will-change?utm_campaign=hbr&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:32:47 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@mpouraryan, good thinking! Actually, that is the key - making decisions. So if we do not decide thoughtfully how technology will aid (not replace) decision making, we could end up being a passenger as opposed to the driver of the future and which critical decisions need to be retained by humans and executives.
Thanks for sharing.
batye
2/6/2018 3:48:54 AM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@DHagar few years ago I read book called We-think
https://books.google.ca/books/about/We_think.html?id=ipHhSn00OeQC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
now we must know how to think it right...
DHagar
2/6/2018 6:34:55 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@batye, I think you have made the key point! Thinking is the critical skill.
This is good.
We had to think to make the previous progress and we need to continue thinking, and rethinking, what we know and how best to move forward if we are to continue making progress?
faryl
1/31/2018 5:58:32 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
I find it so sad that not only does the US still has areas without decent broadband or cellular coverage, but that this doesn’t seem to be a major priority for our country.
There are whole geographic areas that are basically disconnected from vital commerce, education, & overall information resources.
afwriter
2/1/2018 12:16:16 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@Faryl, I think that it comes down to a money issue for most companies, they are not going to put the money and effort into building out infrastructure or putting up a tower when only a few subscribers will want it. I do have to agree with you though that those areas and the people who want access to the internet are being done a serious disservice by not having access in any way.
batye
2/3/2018 1:03:00 AM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@afwriter good point I could not agree more as simular problem we have in Canada... even our gov. did declared Internet essential service... Go figure... ???
vnewman
1/28/2018 1:16:46 AM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
Agree @afwriter. Scale is everything.
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
They'll at least launch whatever they prefer to define as mobile 5G. ;) There are telcos that are saying they already pretty much have it.
faryl
1/31/2018 9:15:49 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
I have a sneaking suspicion that just telling people they have 5G will be enough to convince a decent number of people that their service has improved. Frankly I can never tell if speed issues are related to my device or the network.
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@faryl - Lol - a little placebo effect at work? It's entirely possible. My experience, at least where my phone speeds are concerned, is that when it's my device, turning it off and back on again generally clears up that problem. If I turn it back on and it's still having issues, I generally apply it to the network and then wait 30 minutes to an hour.
Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
@faryl: Sure. Isn't that the tack that one of the big telcos here in the US took for a time with "4G" before they actually had real 4G?
vnewman
2/7/2018 10:15:25 PM
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Re: A lot of hands in the cookie jar.
If it lives up to the hype, 5G speeds on fixed broadband could wind up being 100 times faster than 4G. Can you imagine life with little to no lags? Speeds of 10 GB per second! It just sounds too good to be true.
clrmoney
1/26/2018 10:17:29 AM
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South Korea Leads 5G
I don't think I'm really surprised about foreign countires being in the lead because they have advanced technology that we would not have thought about or done yet. So I say to continue success and reach for the stars with 5G.
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