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Ariella
Ariella
1/24/2018 3:52:07 PM
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Re: AT&T Positioning
@batye I once got a check from Canada for $100 that cost me $8 to cash. That amounts to an 8% fee, which is nearly triple what credit cards charge.

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batye
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1/24/2018 3:45:42 PM
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Re: AT&T Positioning
@Ariella good point in Canada Canadian banks charge hefty fees even if money get transfered from bank to bank in Canada... if from other country you pay through the teeths... the way I see bitcoin is too much hype right now and everyone riding the top wave instead of trying to adopt it as solution... on my end I do not understand Bitcoin... I do not use ot trust it... but it just me... 

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Ariella
Ariella
1/24/2018 12:31:30 PM
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@mhhf1ve but isn't the restriction for the countries more than the currency? I mean if they offered to pay another way, would the transaction still be afoul of the law?  

If you ever had to deal with payments made from another country -- even just Canada -- you'd have run into hefty fees taken off by the bank that clears those payments that originate in another currency or just from a bank without a US branch. That is where having a currency without borders really makes a huge difference on how much of what they earn comes through the transaction for people. It's also an issue for merchants whose sales are on the small side so that credit card fees cut in significantly. 

The reason why bitcoin is not working out well for that is because it has turned into a speculative instrument with roller-coaster movement rather than a steady, dependable form of currency.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/24/2018 12:20:07 PM
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Re: AT&T Positioning
Hmm. The "universality" of bitcoin is a bit problematic, though, if you end up doing business with countries that are banned -- like North Korea or Syria (or Burma, Cuba, Iran, etc). I wonder how Wordpress has avoided legal trouble by accepting bitcoin from anyone? 

Just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean you *should* do it.... 

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Ariella
Ariella
1/24/2018 8:54:16 AM
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@mhhf1ve An advantage that it has over standard currency is its universality -- rather like the currency used across the galaxy in Star Trek. I wrote about that years ago here: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-the-inter-galactic-currency-of-the-future/

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:27:38 PM
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@Ariella @mhhf1ve, I agree. They will come up with some great excuses about why they couldn't meet their target. Transparency is probably not one of their company core values.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:23:26 PM
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@mhhf1ve. I agree. I don't think any of the top players will meet their target goals. It is too large of an initiative to implement. If they do meet their target goals 5G features will be limited. Security will definitely be a lower priority.

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freehe
freehe
1/23/2018 9:21:58 PM
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@mhhf1ve. I agree. I think AT&T and Verizon are taking on too large a task and inflating their goals and estimates for 5G to remain on top. It will be interesting to see who implements 5G first and in what country.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/10/2018 1:58:31 PM
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That's the problem I see with widespread adoption of current cryptocurrencies-- there's no customer service. It's a bit of a double edged blade -- there's anonymity like cash, but it also has the problem that cash has of being easily lost without recourse. But even with cash, if you have partially burned or destroyed bills, you can turn it in to the government to try to get some of the value restored for you.

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Ariella
Ariella
1/10/2018 12:35:55 PM
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@mhhf1ve blockchain tech is meant to assure authenticity. I'm sure it's not complete fraud-proof, but it can be used to reduce fraud. IBM posted an article on that: https://www.ibm.com/blogs/blockchain/2017/07/blockchain-for-fraud-prevention-industry-use-cases/

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