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Ariella
Ariella
12/6/2017 6:19:34 PM
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Re: Time of Death?
@mhhf1ve I knew about the cocaine in the soda, which is really how it got its name. I imagine that people did feel better when they drank it then. Now, at best, you'd get a caffeine and sugar boost. But if you stay away from soda generally, you'd probably find it too sweet. That's how I feel about it. I stick to coffee and tea for my caffeine boosts. Happily, many studies are now identifying health benefits to coffee (and tea, too). So we can feel virtuous about that choice -- so long as we don't go for the whipped cream and so on that can make a beverage contain as many calories as a meal.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 6:01:35 PM
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I've often wondered about the number of competitors in an economic market... and if anyone has studied how biological ecologies might be a model. The analogies might break down pretty quickly, but it seems like there might be a some relevance. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 5:58:15 PM
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FYI - Coca-cola was originally marketed as a medicine to cure headaches, upset stomachs and fatigue. 

https://teens.drugabuse.gov/blog/post/coca-colas-scandalous-past

So it actually contained cocaine (oops, not codeine, as I suggested earlier) -- which is a sure cure for fatigue. But the side effects might not be desirable. 

But a lot of foods and beverages in the 1800s and early 1900s were marketed as "health foods" when they were clearly not by today's standards.... 

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JohnBarnes
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12/6/2017 5:42:57 PM
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mhhf1ve,

Interestingly, too, there seem to be some standard "attractors" in the number of firms that work in a market, such that every time there's a serious attempt to start a competitor in an oligopoly market, the new competitor fails (most commonly) or succeeds partially and is absorbed by one of the existing companies, or kills an existing company, and every time one dies, something grows into its place. 

 

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Ariella
Ariella
12/6/2017 4:41:42 PM
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< And it's no longer PC vs Mac -- but Linux and all the embedded OSes like iOS/Android/etc too. > Yes, we may have changing definitions for computers in a mobile-enabled world.

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Ariella
Ariella
12/6/2017 4:36:56 PM
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@mhhf1ve I thought it started out as cough syrup. Well, back in those days, people were probably still taking laudunum. I suppose there are significant changes -- like going from medical claims to just refreshment -- and more minor changes -- like trying to put Stevia in a line of the soda to cut down ond artificial sweeteners and sugar. But whatever it is, you have to adapt to the demands of the time.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 3:20:16 PM
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It is somewhat interesting how some markets can support more than two big rivals whereas others can't. It used to be just Coke vs Pepsi, but now there are so many soft drinks -- I think the cola war is over. And it's no longer PC vs Mac -- but Linux and all the embedded OSes like iOS/Android/etc too.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 3:15:44 PM
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Well, Coke started as an addictive headache remedy with actual codeine as an ingredient in the 1800s. So... being first in that case might not be repeatable with existing FDA regulations. But I suppose Red Bull and its variants have tried with various sketchy health claims and ingredients.

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Ariella
Ariella
12/6/2017 3:05:12 PM
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@mhhf1ve Hey, hey, Coke was first! That reminds me, though, that sometimes companies try to duplicate themselves with less than optimal results as in New Coke. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 2:01:48 PM
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YouTube is definitely going through some growing pains. They have to balance advertising partners with the content creators -- and those two groups have little in common oftentimes. I think YouTube may have to create some kind of grant system that pays some creators independently of their advertising. Like a PBS or a Nobel prize for YouTube creators. So that creators who make videos that advertisers don't like can still get paid as long SSN their work attracts eyeballs.

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