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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2017 2:49:53 PM
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Fail faster?
I guess it depends on how it "fails" -- what if a new application is *really* popular.. but it's just not cost effective for various reasons that weren't part of the design (eg. CSP fees go up on some component of the service)?  

I wonder how many new services can be created that haven't been conceived yet....

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clrmoney
clrmoney
9/7/2017 3:28:25 PM
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Virtual Vs Human
I think that a lot og things work in the virtual world and some things need to stat in reality but the virtual world and what is has to offer is good for business but to me there should be a balance in a way.

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batye
batye
9/12/2017 2:41:40 PM
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Re: Virtual Vs Human
@clrmoney yes, you are right, but the balance a must be as it a right way... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/7/2017 10:45:18 PM
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Augmented humans is the future
Even though algorithms have beaten the best human chess and Go players, it looks like augmented chess and go games are still popular. The combination of human intuition and machine learning can produce results that are far better than either alone. AlphaGo trained with thousands of human players -- secretly pretending to be a human player in online games. So it won't be too surprising to see automation and humans working together for better productivity and results in the foreseeable future.

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afwriter
afwriter
9/8/2017 4:10:36 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@Mhhf1ve, That is a hot take! We are always reading about AI taking our jobs or humans being able to add the human element to work (an Us vs. Them argument) It is great to see someone pointing out that the future will most likely be humans and robots working together for the best results. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
9/8/2017 4:14:55 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
I wonder if there will be any augmented chess/go competitions? I'm sure there will be for games like Starcraft or Dota2 in the future...

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/11/16137388/dota-2-dendi-open-ai-elon-musk

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batye
batye
9/12/2017 2:44:10 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@afwriter I think in the future we gona see new reality where robots and humans do work hand in hand :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 5:25:04 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
I don't know if I find that intriguing or scary! I do see a future with robots, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes..

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:17:21 AM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@dlr5288 I always ask question what if and how bad it will become at end or good - depends on the point of view... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 1:37:13 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
I guess. I just don’t want it to get to the point where technology takes over..

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DHagar
DHagar
9/8/2017 5:11:14 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@mhhf1ve, yes that is the new focus for optimal results is, as Joe points out human augmentation.  The old approach is automation or tasks.  The new "intelligence" is about automating the  processes (ie technology) to produce better data to enable users and decision makers to improve the performance and make better decisions; the real value of virtualization.

Great article, Joe.  Excellent analysis and distinction between virtualization of infrastruction or applications.

I think we have to begin to understand what is different FIRST and then begin to learn new ways - ie fail fast.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
9/11/2017 12:18:43 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
With these software-defined environments there is an opportunity to do a lot more testing. This means a lot more experimentation and could mean learning a few things that maybe we did not know a network could do. 

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DHagar
DHagar
9/11/2017 5:13:26 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@dcawrey, fully agree.  Which is a different way forward than we are used to.  The concept of experimentaton and learning through discovery is a new and vulnerable approach, but the key to truly developing new models that work.  It truly requires the Fail Fast approach.

It will truly be a test for leadership!

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dcawrey
dcawrey
9/13/2017 6:34:50 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
What's truly interesting is where this tech will take us. I feel as though SDN is a starting point for machine learning networks. We're replacing a lot of human-oriented tasks with machines. At some point AI will set in when there is enough data out there. 

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DHagar
DHagar
9/13/2017 6:36:48 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@dcawrey, excellent vision!  I fully agree.  I believe that the AI will become a "utility" that will be the backbone for ongoing virtual development.  It truly begins to make sense - technically, economically, etc.

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:16:27 AM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@dcawrey the way I see it if technology takes right development/curve it only mater of time... only mater of time... 

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batye
batye
9/12/2017 2:43:10 PM
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Re: Augmented humans is the future
@dcawrey yes, I would say you are right as it would be a better way to do testing  as it would be and esy to do... 

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