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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/4/2017 12:15:40 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
> "The story about how AI outperformed humans in Go or chess is misleading. Those games are structured and it should not be difficult for a machine to store information about any move to be able to outmaneuver humans." The storage of massive amounts of data doesn't help chess or go algorithms that much because the number of possible moves in those games outnumber the atoms in the universe.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/4/2017 11:13:39 AM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
I don't think you know how Go is played. Go isn't nearly as structured as chess. So there's no way to "brute force" calculate a winning strategy for Go. There's no endgame for Go. And AlphaGo surprised many Go experts with novel moves that no one has seen before.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
8/3/2017 9:06:36 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
The story about how AI outperformed humans in Go or chess is misleading. Those games are structured and it should not be difficult for a machine to store information about any move to be able to outmaneuver humans. I agree that machines will augment humans and personally don't see machines able to use all the five human senses and all manner of human intelligence such as not only logical thinking but also intuition at ANY time. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/3/2017 6:38:16 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
Computers are going to augment human intelligence for quite some time, I think. It will be a long time before AI gets to the superhuman intelligence that would free it from having to rely on us for some directions.

That doesn't mean AI won't outperform us at various tasks.. it just means that AI won't have the ability to "think for itself" in every situation it's given. eg. A chess playing AI won't be able to play a game of Go unless we somehow merge the two on purpose, and then it won't necessarily be able to beat us at Jeopardy! or Starcraft.... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/3/2017 6:32:41 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
I guess I should have written "Artificial General Intelligence" (AGI) or "Strong AI" instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence

"Weak AI" or "narrow AI" is usually what we think of when we see AI applied to practical problems -- it's a specific task that a computer can do. 

Speech recognition so far is "weak" because the computers behind it (Siri, Alexa, etc) don't really understand the gist of what you're saying, they can merely recognize keywords and output a rough transcription. MAybe someday a stronger version of speech recognition will be able to actually carry on a real conversation, but that is not on the horizon.

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Kishore Jethanandani
Kishore Jethanandani
8/3/2017 5:15:38 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
@mhhf1ve: I am not sure what your definition of general algorithm. Consider the status as described by Steve Bell in a recent Q&A. 

 

"In the past, researchers were trying to write specific algorithms which would dissect and describe the contents of an image, such as a cat on a sofa, viewed by a computer. However, if another image was shown with the same cat on the same sofa but resting on its back with its legs in the air, it would require another specific algorithm.

Dr. Li took another tack, taking a cue from how a child learns. A child learns by continuous exposure to millions of images -- without any language, framework or preexisting references. Dr. Li wondered if a General Learning Algorithm, using huge numbers of images fed continuously to the computer, would enable object identification and learning."

 

http://www.telcotransformation.com/author.asp?section_id=401&doc_id=732822

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DHagar
DHagar
8/3/2017 4:59:18 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
@mhhf1ve, good analysis!  That is where I believe it now needs to be "driven", not just used, by human applications so it becomes more of a tool for humans.  The ultimate goal, I believe is that it "augments" human knowledge; then it becomes a reliable tool.

When it reaches that stage, like many other rapid development/deployments with technology, it will become an indispensible capability humans won't feel prepared unless they have it or access to it.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/3/2017 4:53:45 PM
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More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
The last time AI was promoted this much.. it caused an "AI Winter" that may have hindered AI R&D for years.

AI has certainly made significant progress, but it doesn't look like "general artificial intelligence" is anywhere near the horizon. AI can do very specific tasks well, but it can't be given vague verbal instructions and figure out what to do like a five year old human can.

But once AI *does* reach the level of a 5yo kid... watch out. The step from 5yo to "superhuman intelligence" is probably not too big a leap. 

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Ariella
Ariella
8/3/2017 3:39:35 PM
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Re: More AI
AI is improving all the time, and the impediments of yesterday will likely be gone tomorrow.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
8/3/2017 12:56:31 PM
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More AI
Artificial Intelligence/AI is then new age thing so with them want to do the artificial virtual reality as it related to smart phones tablets is great for them as new things arise.

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