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afwriter
8/5/2017 11:16:01 PM
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Re: More AI
From what I know it didn't create a language with words and syntaxes. Basically, the two AIs were supposed to barter and they started out bartering with full sentences but it quickly broke down where they chose a few words and used them to communicate amounts versus using full sentences.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-down-ai-robots-after-they-begin-speaking-their-own-language/
Michelle
8/5/2017 7:26:15 PM
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Re: More AI
Whoa! I hadn't heard of that. I did a quick search and Snopes says it actually didn't create its own language. What really happened?
afwriter
8/5/2017 5:44:58 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
Haha, you're probably right. I wonder where the threshold will be between the AI we have now and Superhuman AI.
afwriter
8/5/2017 5:40:41 PM
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Re: More AI
@Areilla some may say too fast. Did you see the story about Facebook's AI creating its own language?
Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
What we must do, on a consistent basis, is to keep an open mind--Mathematics reminds us of it no doubt--isn't that the key driving force behind transformation?
On a side note, some "food 4 thought" 4 all as I wish all a great w-end:
https://www.ted.com/playlists/544/what_direction_is_the_future_headed?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-08-05&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=playlist_title
mhhf1ve
8/5/2017 1:39:07 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
I think the game matters. Mathematicians have proven that some games like tic-tac-toe and othello and connect four can be solved. However, a game like Go hasn't been mathematically solved and may not be solvable.
And AlphaGo has demonstrated that it can come up with new strategies that humans have never encountered and that actually go against human intuition and tradition for the game.
mhhf1ve
8/5/2017 1:34:50 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
> "We survived spreadsheets--right? We can survive AI-"
LOL! I think spreadsheets are just a bit different from superhuman AI. But I suppose there were probably a few close calls with spreadsheets that almost ruined civilization... we just didn't hear about them. :P
DHagar
8/4/2017 5:04:18 PM
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Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
@mhhf1ve, exactly! Which I think makes a better model anyway. The more one learns, the more one advances the models and applications. It becomes a "discovery-driven" planning proposition.
Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
The game itself should not matter--although I am intrigued to learn the game. The issue is the challenge of the best player being beaten--right?
Re: More hype before an AI Winter 2.0?
If we are able to make sure that humans live with AI, why not? Greg IP int he WSJ this week had a very interesting contention that got me truly thinking about all the reservations I have expressed about AI (and all know this throughout TT): We survived spreadsheets--right? We can survive AI--although the move by Facebook, though, shutting down the self-driven language should keep our guards up.
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