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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/7/2017 5:53:21 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
It will be interesting if AT&T and Verizon (and cablecos like Comcast et al) can all agree on the same open source protocols, but I'm not optimistic that it'll happen. 

Never say never, though? If eveyone can agree on Ethernet... maybe there are other things that can be "universal" too -- but it would be rare to see a "modern" standard get universal adoption *after* it's developed and deployed.

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Ariella
Ariella
8/3/2017 8:09:43 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
@mhhf1ve yes, I can see their not wanting to be outside something that brings their major competitiors together.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
8/3/2017 6:46:20 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
If it's not ONAP, then its ONS for MANO for Verizon, but I believe there's an article on LR that says Verizon knows that ONAP does a lot more than ONS. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/3/2017 6:28:17 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
> "If you can't lick 'em, join em?"

Yup, and align yourself with allies against your competition... I don't think Verizon is going to join ONAP when AT&T has already, but maybe Comcast's partnership with Verizon will help to bring Verizon over? Maybe?

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Ariella
Ariella
8/3/2017 4:14:54 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
@mhhf1ve is that the idea of "If you can't lick 'em, join em?" You may as well position yourself to have some influence by getting on the inside.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
8/3/2017 3:22:48 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
Those are good reasons. While telcos have central offices, cable operators have headends. There's a huge cost in equipment, powering and cooling in those headends. Virtualizing or even reducing the footprint would save them money just like it does the telcos. I don't know about Comcast being able to dictate ONAP's direction as whole. It might have some influence in certain areas, but ONAP is supposedly going to go beyond telecom into other areas such as oil and gas, healthcare, transportation, etc.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/3/2017 2:44:26 PM
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Re: What's the Motivation Here?
> "I'm just wondering when you get down to it what the advantages are for Comcast."

I think Comcast gets early access and some influence over the standards -- which could help it reduce its own costs and development down the line, if it can point ONAP development in the directions that it wants to go. Comcast (as well as other CSPs) would gain some leverage over their hardware vendors in this process by being able to demand certain standards and uniformity of network equipment. You can replace "Comcast" with any other large CSP name -- it's all about getting equipment costs down. 

This is also why Facebook and Google have been actively growing their own open source projects, too. Bringing down datacenter costs by any means.... means that these tech giants don't need to spend more on infrastructure... and the pool of engineers with relevant knowledge is increased at the same time, too.

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afwriter
afwriter
8/2/2017 11:29:29 PM
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What's the Motivation Here?
They can spin this anyway they want, but I wonder what the real reason is for Comcast to join ONAP. I'm not saying it is a bad thing, I'm just wondering when you get down to it what the advantages are for Comcast.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
8/2/2017 1:02:42 PM
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Re: Comcast Joins ONAP
Great to see service providers move in this direction. 

This open embrace has been going on with larger tech companies for years. Only now as the tech for network infrastructure catches up that Comcast, AT&T, etc. move into this space. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
8/1/2017 5:36:14 PM
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Re: Comcast Joins ONAP
I'd also be interested to hear what open source communities think of these major companies funding open source organizations. Do developers care where the funding comes from? Is any influence from CSPs welcomed? 

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