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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/26/2017 5:24:30 PM
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Re: Generation Z
> "Changes are definitely underway, though the tenured will not be booted out now.."

Tenured profs may not be booted out, but their working conditions can be reduced to the point where they voluntarily give up their position (or are forced out through other means). I know a few profs in Wisconsin, where the conditions for tenured faculty are threatened. Being an academic isn't always a cushy ride. While it's true that some tenured profs can move to other universities with more favorable tenure systems, that choice may not exist for others (or maybe not for much longer at all?).

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/12/07/faculty-members-university-wisconsin-oppose-proposed-change-new-post-tenure-review

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Ariella
Ariella
7/26/2017 2:33:10 PM
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Re: Generation Z
@vnewman I agree. It also takes the ability to break outside the traditional management box that looks at arrival and departure times and the appearance of busyness rather than actual output.

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Michelle
Michelle
7/26/2017 2:32:43 PM
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Re: Generation Z
The age cutoff does seem to be rather big for this group. It's really interesting to watch young children play with technology! They learn so quickly and memorize icons and positions to get around. I wonder what they'll think of the less intuitive systems they'll use as young adults...might be a bit frustrating.

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Ariella
Ariella
7/26/2017 2:22:22 PM
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Re: Generation Z
@mhhf1ve Changes are definitely underway, though the tenured will not be booted out now. Even at traditional colleges, there are options for online classes. My daughter is enrolled in one over the summer. They don't have to do anything live at all -- only within windows. Also, though the professor passes on lecture notes, there is no lecture component in the traditional sense and no audio or video.

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vnewman
vnewman
7/26/2017 2:20:07 PM
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Re: Generation Z
I would argue that, to an extent anyway, it takes a different skill set to manage remote workers than most managers are equiped with or are willing to learn.  There is a component of laziness to it - it takes more effort to try to keep the remote workforce engaged and on track. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/26/2017 1:53:06 PM
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Re: Generation Z
College education is probably overdue for some disruption, so I don't think the problem of tenured professors teaching politically-biased lesson plans is going to present a long-term problem. 

Tenured professors themselves have a larger problem that their careers may not exist for much longer in the traditional form. Lecture halls filled with hundreds of students is not the best way to learn, and even adjunct professors or lecturers may have a hard time managing classes in the future when universities are digitized, downsized and decentralized.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
7/26/2017 9:14:03 AM
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Re: Generation Z
@faryl:

Very true. Just that one F2F interaction would bring lot of value for any future interaction through out the project life cycle. One can clearly visualize the person and personality better in offline engagemnets.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/26/2017 9:09:33 AM
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Re: Generation Z
@mhhf1ve - I personally never experienced a teacher discussing their own personal views on anything. My brother bemoans the topic but I think it's just a political stance people seem to be taking anymore. I'm genuinely curious as to how frequently it actually happens (not saying it doesn't happen ever) compared to how often people seem to like to say it's happening. My experience is that college is there to teach you to think critically, and that's not really happening if they are force feeding you opinions. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/26/2017 9:06:09 AM
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Re: Generation Z
@Michelle - The strange thing is Gen Z includes my 5 year old son - for reasons I don't really understand. I feel like the gap is way too big there, but I suppose I don't really know how my 5 year old will transform as he gets older. I know he has been playing with my phone since about the age of 1. It was only shortly there after that he mastered his grandfather's iPad. He has his own tablet, though he's only allowed educational games. He just recently entered the world of Mario video games. Though my best friends' son, who is the same age, has been playing for literally years at this point. Realistically, at this point, I also don't see a big difference between my 5 year old and my almost 3 year old, but my almost 3 year old doesn't make the cut off. Time will tell I suppose. 

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Ariella
Ariella
7/25/2017 7:32:30 PM
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@faryl It was positively prescient!

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