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DHagar
DHagar
6/21/2017 6:08:25 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@Mike, that would be an extremely smart and positive move for cable operators.  It would enable them to truly add value to their offerings to customers.

Your outline of value from multiple users is excellent - that is where the true transformation takes place.  The ONAP, and platforms that provide new context for solutions is a win-win proposition.

AT&T is wisely applying this and demonstrating value with their platforms.  I am wondering who else will step up and be a leader? 

I am also wondering with our US providers will be in the lead or if international companies will be leading the pack (ie Huawei, et al)?

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
6/22/2017 9:24:54 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
Good questions Deborah, since these were seen as competing technologies prior to the formation of ONAP. OPEN-O was really pushed by Chinese vendors and service providers, but Arpit and Mazin stressed that ECOMP and OPEN-O each were missing a few pieces that the other can provide. 

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DHagar
DHagar
6/22/2017 4:45:29 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@Mike, thanks for that background!  Interesting developments.  This again goes to show how the open platform plays a key role in advancing technology, as opposed to selecting one versus another.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/22/2017 2:48:47 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
I am curious about your perspective on the level of value at hand for the end user--that seems to be continuing to abandon the providers at this stage? 

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DHagar
DHagar
6/22/2017 4:48:22 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@mpouraryan, my view is that the open platform IS designed to provide more and better options for the users.  I see that as moving beyond the old models of us vs. them and a win-lose proposition.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/22/2017 5:10:51 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
What are some examples of "options" you envision beyond what we already have so far that is being refined and revised?   

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DHagar
DHagar
6/22/2017 7:18:33 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@mpouraryan, what is in my mind, which continues to offer better options, are platforms, such as AT&T is developing that scale and deploy the right technology needed to solve the customers' problems, as opposed to continually promoting a single or competing technologies.  The platform approach utilizes open systems, such as ONAP, where service probiders (including cable companies) can recommend the appropriate technology to address, scale, provide the service the user is needing and preferred.  This tends to be a platform of assembled capabilities, as opposed to defining the user's problems by the technology solution.

AT&T, Huawei, other leading platform providers are providing better options, including use of SD-WAN, and don't just become a one solution provider.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/22/2017 10:46:48 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
The question is how long before we see such evolution you envision.   For the sake of the end user, I hope it is sooner than later!!

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DHagar
DHagar
6/23/2017 5:41:33 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@mpouraryan, I am with you on that!  I believe the leading companies have been developing that for some time, so potentially their end-user solutions will begin to drive the market place.

I believe that is the potential value that true transformation will provide - it should be a distinctive difference.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 1:54:58 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar interesting point I would say how I see it - it change what must happens and no other way around it for now... as technology changing...

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DHagar
DHagar
7/3/2017 5:01:42 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, thanks!  We are going to have to start with what we don't know in order to learn the new solutions that will give us new answers, models, and produce greater value.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 6:24:58 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar  for me it constant movment forward and not looking back, trying to keep up and not to fall behind... 

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DHagar
DHagar
7/3/2017 6:29:53 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, it is a case of failing fast and falling forward.  Once you let go of old ideas, you have the capacity to grasp which ones are relevant.

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batye
batye
7/4/2017 4:06:04 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar I could not agree more... as for me it always important to keep open mind and keep learning new things... 

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DHagar
DHagar
7/5/2017 7:22:26 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, you have the key strategy - either sink or swim - the choice is ours!  And swimming is so much better!

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batye
batye
7/6/2017 4:24:16 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar yes I could not agree more, but swimming towards right direction - follow it own path... as following stream not always give results... 

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DHagar
DHagar
7/6/2017 7:52:31 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, that is where leadership takes place.  The true leaders are innovators and lead the changes, the rest just follow the herd.

Again, that is the progressive thinking that Telco Transformation enables in bringing together thought leaders who want to think and do things that make a real difference.

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batye
batye
7/7/2017 12:12:08 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar  I would say it same way like having a baby - united family effort :) 

same with TT where everyone working tougher to make a positive change... 

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DHagar
DHagar
7/7/2017 1:55:15 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, true, it is a community of mutual value and benefit and each member adds to the group.  That's what makes it so great!

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 5:59:36 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
That's why community is so important. We can learn so much from other people.

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DHagar
DHagar
7/31/2017 6:47:13 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dir5288, very true.  We learn as much from "new insights" as we do from the facts themselves.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 11:33:09 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
True! Learning from insights and trial and error are excellent ways to be taught.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:49:31 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 yes, thank you :) for me any error is opton to learn from it, while figuring out - how to fix it :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 11:54:58 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
I agree. Any error or mishap we can always learn from. It's important to learn from failing.

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:27:46 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 I would say it like in nature approach - nature always tring to improve via mutations and learn from it via survival :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 2:17:31 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
And to continue to learn and grow in our thinking is crucial for success.

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 9:35:41 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 yes as at the same time it does give us  warm sense of beloning to the group :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 11:34:11 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
And it will make the group and company be able to work together better and more efficiently if they're used to it.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:51:09 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 yes in my books working as the group is always better same rule would be for Co. as sharing and trying to figure it out as a group - improve outcome at the end... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 11:57:27 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
Whether you fail as a group or succeed. It's always a learning process to grow from.

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:28:40 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 it like bever giving up on the learning process and always keep trying to learn from it... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 2:18:02 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
Good way to look at it. Yeah definitely to continue to try is key.

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 9:34:37 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar yes as it also a learning process while we learn from each other and it never stops as technology keep developing and growing 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/4/2017 5:10:12 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, ys, it becomes a circular perpetual growth.  More data provides more information for us to apply our knowledge to, which producs more data for more information.

This should keep us busy for years!

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 9:25:58 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar I see it as Endless Library of data we gonna have to swim in it :) 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/7/2017 5:20:24 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, very interesting thought - an endless library.  That is an excellent perspective on the new environment.

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batye
batye
8/7/2017 7:31:34 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar  thank you, it just my point of view I see knowledge and data as library of information to learn from... 

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DHagar
DHagar
8/8/2017 5:21:49 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@batye, actually that is the real value of technology as well!  When we keep that in mind, we view things differently.

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batye
batye
8/8/2017 5:30:06 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@DHagar yes as it life learning process to get better and improve the survival ods with knowledge...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 5:57:44 PM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
Very true! It's important to be able to follow your instincts and learn from new experiences and people.

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 9:48:02 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
@dlr5288 I could not agree more as it like using other senses to win or get on the right path :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 11:42:37 AM
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Re: Is Cable On Deck?
And I feel like as long as we all work together as a team, even with trial and error, we can all learn how to handle certain situations.

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freehe
freehe
6/21/2017 8:00:18 PM
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Cable on Deck
@Mike, Great article. I am curious why Comcast and other cable companies are not on deck. There has to be a good reason since many and embarking on other technologies such as AI and big data and SD-WAN and 5G.

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Mike Robuck
Mike Robuck
6/22/2017 9:21:32 AM
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Re: Cable on Deck
Arpit made it sound like there would be cable announcements soon. I know that in the past there were some marked differences in architectures for cable and telcos, such as headends instead of central offices, but they are starting to become similar through things like IP. 

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freehe
freehe
6/21/2017 8:02:15 PM
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ONAP Benefits
@DHagar, ONAP seems to be a great solutions for many of the common problems that enterprises today experience. Many enterprise need to collect data and be able to analyze. They also need to automate their processes to provide a seamless streamlined environment which will reduce costs and increase revenue as well as provide more value for their customers.

 

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freehe
freehe
6/21/2017 8:04:56 PM
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ONAP Industries
I see that many industries can use ONAP especially industries that are overloaded with customers such as  the medical industry. ONAP can help so many industries reduce costs and work smarter not harder. It can help them work quicker and more efficiently. I see it also helping to allow executives to make decisions quicker.

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batye
batye
6/21/2017 10:59:21 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@freehe I would say not only faster, but it would be a smarter way as they would be making it based on the right/correct up to date info/data...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/22/2017 2:45:29 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
What is clear is that the only way for them to stay competitive to get even more automated--what I was curious about was the "pain" they identified--hopefully Mike can have him on a future show to deliberate the exact levels of pain and how they are able to bridge the divide that does exist.

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afwriter
afwriter
6/23/2017 12:22:39 AM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@mpouraryan No pain no gain right? I wonder how many companies will try to avoid the pain and end up dying as a result. 

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Ariella
Ariella
6/23/2017 10:38:56 AM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@afwriter that is true. You can avoid pain by maintaining the status quo, but when the world passes you by, your loss would be that much greater.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/23/2017 11:38:19 AM
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Re: ONAP Industries
It is absolutely true--This is as I see some further "rays of hope" as epitomized by this I just saw courtesy of Fortune in my morning AM review before running off:

Today we're publishing online Robert Hackett's feature about the GoogleSWAT team of hackers that is trying to cover the frighteningly large number of gaps in security across the Internet. It's an engrossing read that reveals much about how companies allow, detect, and respond to a kind of incident that gets no less frightening with familiarity. It's the cover story for Fortune'sJuly edition and you can read it here.

Wishing you all a great Weekend.

 

 

 

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DHagar
DHagar
6/23/2017 5:43:10 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@afwriter, I think you are right.  Let's hope the "shortcutters" don't take the lead - because the comparisons should be distinctive with the real thing versus the "look-alikes".

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dcawrey
dcawrey
6/24/2017 5:49:26 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
Open networks are still in flux. Proprietary is trying to win a campaign here, but I think it's better for there to be a more hybrid approach, which I believe is what we are currrently seeing today. 

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DHagar
DHagar
6/27/2017 4:22:41 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@dcawsrey, you have hit a key point.  The hybrid approach truly adds new value and creates a different result, making the differentiation greater - as opposed to just different.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
6/28/2017 4:30:02 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@DHagar It's all about creating new value. 

Networks are growing ever more complex. Solutions cannot simply be about open vs. closed anymore. IT has moved past that. Some of it surely has been a generational shift, but nevertheless it is happening. 

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DHagar
DHagar
6/28/2017 7:11:58 PM
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Re: ONAP Industries
@dcawrey, excellent assessment - I fully agree.  It is about designing the solution as much as the selection for purchase.  I believe your point about generational may be a key.  We are going to have to think in different context to truly understand the differences.

Thanks for  points.

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clrmoney
clrmoney
6/21/2017 9:59:34 PM
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Cable for ONAP
Cable is very popular with companies like Spectrum that was Bright House and Charter etc. So if they want to be with ONAP then go for it and let's see the outcome.

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