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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
4/28/2017 12:38:45 PM
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On a Brief Prowl....
..as I saw the "categories, it was interesting how the initial reaction to the polls was as skewed as it was.   I voted for Smart Homes because I continue to view Smart Homes as the next Holoy Grail (and we've had extensive deliberations here).  Industrial iOT, I Submit, has been with us with thea dvent of robotics..and will continue to be so....

Truly interesting times..as we march on to May w/ all the possiblities.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/28/2017 12:52:40 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
I voted for industrial IoT

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batye
batye
4/28/2017 4:12:26 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
I voted for Smart Home

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/28/2017 11:56:01 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
I picked utilities because it's going to be one of the fastest to deploy (since so much is already in place for that), and you don't get revenue till you deploy.  But I think industrial IoT, transportation, and most of all agriculture are the ones with the biggest long run potential.

Especially agriculture; once you've got sensors, networks, bots, and stations that can take the place of peasants, food production can be so amazingly productive that it could well wipe out world hunger in less than a generation. Sadly, our senseless worship of free markets will probably hold back development of that for decades.

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Michelle
Michelle
4/29/2017 12:03:40 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
I picked utilities for similar reasons. Utility usage will be big for IoT. I don't see smart home technology growing rapidly in the same way...

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/29/2017 2:12:48 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
Michelle,

Also, just as scorekeeping, there's a huge overlap between utilities and smart home IoT. Is that gadget that my local power company wants me to add that cycles my AC on and off to share power more efficiently  utlity IoT (it's talking to them and they'll be the actual owners) or smart home IoT (it's running part of my house to reduce my budget, and I'll choose many of its settings).

What I actually want to see in smart homes in smart drains. There ought to be a "flushing water" tank into which the washing machine, roof gutters, and the gross* sediment filter are routed, via a sensing/sterilizing system so that the water is left dirty but kept sterilized; a gross sediment filtering system that the sinks, dishwasher, shower, and tub empty into that extracts the gross lumpy stuff into a soggy but sterile slurry; and a smart flush that uses the flushwater tank to fill up the toilet tanks, and also draws just enough flushwater to wash out the gross particulate slurry.  We could be getting 3-4 uses out of 90% of the water coming into each house AND having fewer clogged drains as well -- there's an IoT application you don't hear much about!

*("Gross in both senses!")

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Michelle
Michelle
4/29/2017 3:04:49 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
@John My electric company has no such device requests for its customers. I can see the advantages of your filtering sensor+collection basin idea. It would be neat to get something like this for gray water sooner, rather than later. At home water recycling for the solar powered home!

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/30/2017 2:56:24 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
I did too, mostly because of what you said. Has the most room to grow in my opinion.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 6:32:15 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
@JohnBarnes, That is a good point, didn't think about how it could benefit agriculture. But on the other side it may help companies generate more GMF (genetically modified food) at a faster rate.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/30/2017 11:53:31 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
freehe,

Yes, that's absolutely another advantage; we need more GMOs, and this can help achieve that.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/9/2017 1:49:13 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
> ".. agriculture; once you've got sensors, networks, bots, and stations that can take the place of peasants, food production can be so amazingly productive.."

The world of robots is getting a bit closer to being able to pick fruits and vegetables with the same gentle care as human hands.. but we're not there yet. Maybe we'll get a boost of "necessity" when we face a real labor shortage for farm work? 

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604303/apple-picking-robot-prepares-to-compete-for-farm-jobs/

Robots can pick apples, and we'll see if these robots displace human workers.... 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/9/2017 2:58:24 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
Robots can also (eventually) hand pick just the harmful bugs, water just the plants that need it right at the base, cover individual plants against freezing, chase off rodents and deer -- and do that 24/7 without needing a break. Peasants 3.0 for a fraction of the cost of real peasants. And we can fill the markets with great food that no one will be able to buy since they won't have jobs.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/10/2017 1:24:13 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
There are already robots that can do some weeding.. but picking bugs? I think that might be a bit too laborious for even robots! Insects outnumber almost all life but single celled organisms.. so that would be a tall order to get robots to identify and pluck out only the "bad" insects, I think. (Or at least, prohibitively energy intensive to do so.)

Bill Gate's solution to the automation problem (ultra-production but mass unemployment) is to tax robots and set up some kind of fund for the unemployed for a basic income or for skills training?

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/31/2017 4:41:42 PM
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Re: On a Brief Prowl....
It's super impressive that we already have robots that can do all that! It'll be interesting to see how advanced these robots become in the future!

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:50:48 AM
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IoT Growth Predictions
I said Industrial IoT because they have gone a great deal of work to automate their processes which provides a huge ROI. Other markets have started to use IoT but many are fearful, feel it is too complex and do not really understand what it is, what to do with it or how to use it.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/8/2017 11:06:48 AM
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Healthcare neglected?
I'm surprised that the healthcare market isn't getting more love in this poll. I suppose the regulations that govern medical devices will slow down the development of any IoT healthcare, but it still seems like a huge potential market. 

The poll does restrict our predictions to the next 5 years.. and medical devices take much longer than that to get to market.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
5/8/2017 12:03:26 PM
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Re: Healthcare neglected?
As I reflected upon this, one thing I wanted to throw out there (as I voted for Smart Homes) was to factor in the growth of home healthcare--we have to do things different to counter the rising cost of healthcare--As our homes becomes smarter, it seems to me that we are able to ensure that we can afford a sense of dignity to all so that...just some "Food 4 thought" for all.  

Onward to the new week!!

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
5/8/2017 2:50:08 PM
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Re: Healthcare neglected?
That's a realliy good point, as I recently saw a device that claimed to monitor the movements of senior citizens in their own homes to allow them to live "independently" while still being monitored for possible health issues. The example case study presented a break in a wake-up morning routine that could be automatically identified by algorithms that might lead to early detection of sleep disorders or depression.... 

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