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cweinsch@optonline.net
cweinsch@optonline.net
3/23/2017 4:59:50 PM
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Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
 

CenturyLink's Brannan Matherson says that the enterprise cloud is almost the equivalent of legacy infrastructure in capabilities and flexibility.

How do you feel? In your opinion, the enterprise cloud...

 

-- ...offers great advantages, but still requires significant sacrifices in comparison to traditional approaches.

-- ...is virtually the equal of legacy infrastructure.

 

Please expand on your answer below. If you feel that the cloud has not quite fully arrived, let us know where you think progress still must be made.

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Mike Robuck
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3/24/2017 10:50:19 AM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
I'll go with "virtually equal" but with that said I think businesses need to have a clear understanding of what they want to do in the cloud, and make sure they have employees that understand why it's important. What is the business case other than storage, and how does cloud improve the bottom line? 

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JohnBarnes
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3/26/2017 1:03:37 AM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
Mike,

But the case is so simple that it writes itself: find any function the company does via software, and it's always safer to have the "server" dispersed and offsite than to have it located at a single point onsite. The scenarios where that might not be true are pretty scarce:

•if you need really fast response and can't afford radio lag (like, say, you're doing algorithmic trading on the moon, I suppose). 

•If the data must be positively secure, like nuclear-war-codes level secure, and you can afford to put that one server inside a fortress, because hacking is admittedly easier and cheaper than physical assault.

•If the only person who understands your existing process and software will only work on Archaic 2.2 and the cloud doesn't even offer file translation from the early versions of Archaic into Obsolete/Obscure.  (In which case you better wrap that person up safely until you get the knowledge recorded and transferred). 

Otherwise, the case for the cloud is easy to write and always getting stronger.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
3/26/2017 3:59:43 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
I just hope we're going to see more options in enterprise cloud. Yeah, there's a bunch of calendar solutions. But that doesn't make up for the fact there aren't enough cloud email options. Or document collaboration options. We need more of that kind of stuff. 

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dcawrey
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3/25/2017 3:21:10 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
Amazon, Google, Microsoft. These are the big players. There are others trying to get in, too. 

Dropbox is making efforts. There's now a Facebook enterprise. And despite what some might say is limited functionality, a number of teams are using Slack. It's exciting times, I just hope to see more options from the upstarts. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2017 3:27:01 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
@dcawrey:

I agree with you. Dropbox is really trying to hold in this area.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:58:04 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
@dcawrey, Thanks for sharing. I forgot about Dropbox and of course we all know about Google Drive.

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JohnBarnes
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3/25/2017 7:34:43 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
Virtually equal, I think. And given the inherent advantages of the cloud, in any contest between cloud and legacy, cloud will win all the ties from here on out.  Which, I believe, was Mr. Matherson's point about our having crossed over the tipping point, so that "move to cloud" is now the default over "keep legacy going."

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afwriter
afwriter
3/25/2017 11:02:52 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
I would say virtually the equal

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:56:29 PM
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Re: Polls: Where is the Enterprise Cloud?
How do you feel? In your opinion, the enterprise cloud...

 
I believe the cloud ...offers great advantages, but still requires significant sacrifices in comparison to traditional approaches.

I don't believe there is any technology that matches the legacy infrastructure which is why so many companies still have legacy systems.

The cloud has arrived but there is definitely room for improvements in the areas of cloud security, standards, data security, financial industry, providing different cloud options for different organizations, digital transformation, etc.



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clrmoney
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3/23/2017 7:47:29 PM
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I liked how they talked about cloud consuming on demand and rapid innovations. That was insteresting to hear so we'll see more of what they have to offer.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2017 3:30:51 PM
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At the same time, there's not this massive rush to 100% cloud. There is, "Hey, how do I use what I have today, the investments of what I have in my own data center? Can I use a modular approach to delivering services within my own data center, because I spent those dollars already, and then consume some cloud?" So there's more of a hybrid approach that we see in those environments..


This is very true. THough companies are enthusiastic about Cloud, the general approach is more like why can't we levrage what we have today, what we have invested already etc. But certainly there is more interest everywhere.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/31/2017 12:01:33 PM
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Good points! Obviously interest to keep moving forward and growing is always there when it comes to technology, but you're right. We have to learn to manage the technology we have no first. It'll make things easier as we move along.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 1:43:52 PM
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Re: Trend
@dlr:

In addition we may also learn if there is any hidden opportunity without reinventing the wheel. That would benefit in two aspects

- cost impact by leveraging some of the existing technology, infrastructure etc.

- time impact as you will be bale to deliver fast as you are not starting from scratch.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/29/2017 1:46:05 PM
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Re: Trend
Good points! Yeah to be able to add on to tonolder technologies and advancing them, bringing them to life, would be highly useful!

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 9:00:33 PM
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@dlr5288, I agree. That would definitely be useful. Right now companies have to pay a lot of money to find older workers who have expertise in older systems. To be able to merge old and new systems will help save money and paying expensive consultants.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 1:38:54 PM
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Exactly! It'll definitely help with the cost and payment of employees! Because it's important to hire the best people for the job.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
5/16/2017 8:45:39 PM
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@dlr:

Also the old technology could have underlying foundation that is matured enough and retaining such maturity is only going to help the next stage product. One less thing to worry about basic foundations.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 1:40:00 PM
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Good point! Yeah to be able to have a starting point with new technology will be a lot easier than starting from scratch!

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
6/28/2017 11:42:11 PM
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Re: Trend
Having s starting point in place would certainly eliminate all the ground work and time to knock off all pre-work. That definitely is a positive factor besides existing framwork as a foundation.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/29/2017 3:10:51 PM
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Re: Trend
Very true. It gives you a starting point and an area where you can work and build from. So you can skip all the trial and errors in the beginning.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
6/29/2017 8:18:22 PM
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We need to realize that , this approach saves effort, time and money that gets spent for that intial groundbreaking stuff.

Many companies have various pre-existing frameworks that they use while building new products. They always reuse basic foundation and that is a perfect strategy.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/30/2017 3:11:04 PM
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Yes and it'll be so much easier to start off that way. It makes the most sense.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2017 3:34:50 PM
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Vendors
How do we optimize the configuration and architecture of the cloud? How do I optimize the spend and the cost? That's where we really start to differentiate.

Very critical factors - No wonder if these turn out to be decision making factors when it comes to vendor selection. Vendors really have to be creative with their models.


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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/28/2017 3:37:50 PM
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Re: Vendors
Another [area of differentiation] is business continuity and disaster recovery scenarios...


Also would like to add these two as well - business continuity and DR becomes extremely important services when you think of cloud. It is obvious that a vendor with these capabilities will certainly hold value in Clud world.

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dcawrey
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3/28/2017 7:54:35 PM
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Re: Vendors
@ms.akkineni Dropbox and Box need to get their act together. The only reason why they've been able to do well is because of shadow IT. That's not going to be enough for them to be an enterprise player. They are going to need to do a lot more than that. 

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ms.akkineni
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4/26/2017 1:46:07 PM
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Re: Vendors
@dc:

Completely in agreemnet with you. They have to comeup with something significant to grab a spot in enterprise field.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:59:13 PM
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Re: Vendors
@dcawrey, I agree. Ha!Ha! Dropbox will have to make some major improvements to remain competitive. I am curious to see the future of the company in the next few years.

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dlr5288
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3/31/2017 12:04:45 PM
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Re: Vendors
Definitely key factors and questions to ask yourself when you're talking about the Cloud. It's important to keep improving the Cloud, after you thoroughly understand the basics of it first.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:51:14 PM
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Enterprise Cloud
@Carl Weinschenk, great article. Thanks for the writeup and keep us informed.

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Itsmeshawn22
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5/31/2017 9:12:07 PM
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CL's Matherson: Future Is Now for Enterprise Cloud
This is so true with the critaria and the design for the cloud it can be very pwerfull. It may be also to good for the enterprise to control without the right the technology and specs they need to have. I think its a good point to make a cross the company's support with the cloud.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/29/2017 3:11:57 PM
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Re: CL's Matherson: Future Is Now for Enterprise Cloud
Good point. I definitely do not think that the Cloud is a good fit for every company. Some times it'll only make things more difficult.

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