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clrmoney
clrmoney
3/14/2017 3:35:44 PM
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AT&T Cloud concerns
They are talking about Cloud Netbond which is a API-orchestrated platform that has better security for bypassing in the internet  they say. I thing that this is great that they are doing this and so much more.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/15/2017 6:58:47 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@clrmoney, NetBond is an excellent idea in bundling and solving concerns and key pain points for their customers.  This should be successful in the cloud market for business enterprises.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
3/16/2017 6:04:49 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
This is interesting. And I can see how this would be really valuable for IoT. 

One of the biggest things I have been concerned about when it comes to IoT is security. This could be a really great solution for that. 

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DHagar
DHagar
3/16/2017 7:40:39 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dcawrey, good comment.  I believe that AT&T has the "platform" to truly provide a solid enterprise solution - as opposed to just a software solution.  Their understanding and broader solutions just be able to provide the necessary tiers of protection that are scalable and attractive to business.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/31/2017 2:00:51 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Good points! And I just hope, when it comes to the Cloud, that they can work on improving the security and make it stronger.

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DHagar
DHagar
3/31/2017 4:20:33 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, It is my understanding that those organizations, like AT&T, that are building platforms are doing exactly that and building in security layers, that with their large customer base, make the economies of scale work.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/24/2017 12:42:11 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Oh I didn't know that! Well I feel like it's about time to take a stronger stand on security and moving forward in improving security functions.

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DHagar
DHagar
4/24/2017 6:44:32 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288 - that is what will make the cloud of value and I believe security is a number one business and public/safety concern.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/29/2017 1:41:30 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Exactly! And the Cloud is so useful. If the security was made stronger and more dependable it would be used by so many more people/companies.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/1/2017 6:39:34 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, I think the platforms that are now behind most of the clouds are beginning to address this issue and provide new layers of security that will be comparable - or even be at a higher level going forward.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 1:46:12 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
I definitely hope so! I'm glad that they're providing more layers of security with the Cloud. I'm hoping it makes a clear improvement!

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DHagar
DHagar
5/30/2017 7:58:34 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288 - I think it will.  And it truly requires a more complex design that more effectively addresses the realities of security for a multi-faceted systems - which is today's environment.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 11:20:30 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Exactly! It's true, there needs to be a security system for the Cloud that protects against all different types of programs and devices. Not just certain ones.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/31/2017 4:36:39 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, that's the only way we will stay ahead of the ever-growing threats and vulnerabilities.  We will never control and stop them, but can continue to build barriers that result in greater protection and/or alerts so we can take appropriate measures.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/28/2017 10:39:00 AM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Exactly! Security is a never ending process, but it's the only way to keep things as safe as possible.

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DHagar
DHagar
6/28/2017 6:59:04 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, very true.  True security now is less about controlling the risks than discovering, creating barriers, and alerts to the risks so that you can control how you are impacted by your environment.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/29/2017 1:06:58 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
And security can be lacking in many ways. Depending on what device you're using. So it's easy to understand how difficult it can be to keep security under control.

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DHagar
DHagar
6/30/2017 8:22:10 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, exactly.  It is more about "learning" about your environment and the vulnerabilities than trying to control it.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 4:47:57 AM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Very true. It's something that we're always going to have to worry about one way or another unfortunately.

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DHagar
DHagar
7/31/2017 6:32:46 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, a "networked" world, which is what the cloud offers, is totally different that the controlled environment of independent company servers and networks.  The great capabilities and cost savings achieved through shared technology creates a new entry into the enterprise through these various new channels.  We have to discover those vulnerabilities in order to build roadblocks and increased protection.

It is worth it but is a different environment!

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 10:13:57 AM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
I totally agree! I think that the Cloud opens up so many new opportunities for us in technology! But, like you said, we just have to be careful with how we handle it.

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DHagar
DHagar
8/31/2017 5:02:29 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288 - well said.  We have to think in terms of the transparency that comes with networks, as well as the interdependencies.  Once we factor that in we can decide where it is appropriate to network and where we need autonomous control.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 10:26:47 AM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Exactly! I think the Cloud can fit in so perfectly, but we haven't come up with the best place for it yet.

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DHagar
DHagar
9/28/2017 5:50:16 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dir5288, exactly!  It is thinking at a different level (frequency?) as opposed to linear.  We have to rethink, design, and discover the capabilities and the values it delivers to fully utilize the potential that exists.

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Ariella
Ariella
3/17/2017 11:32:24 AM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dcawrey Absolutely! There would still be some security concerns on the device end, but this solution would help manage the risk of data transfer over the public internet.

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faryl
faryl
4/12/2017 3:38:41 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
So is this akin to a more robust intranet service?

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/29/2017 9:26:34 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
faryl,

I'd like to see more details too; NetBond sounds great but oddly enough, the "so what is it, exactly" sentence seems to be missing. On the ATT homepage for it, it is explained as "AT&T NetBond® for Cloud enables you to connect, or "bond," your AT&T virtual private network (VPN) to cloud providers of your choice."  So if I'm getting this right, your internal/local intranet talks only to your VPN (which apparently must be an AT&T VPN). Your VPN then talks to the rest of the cloud via a secure, high-capacity channel called NetBond.

I think.

Pretty clearly if you have any direct connections from your intranet to other companies/cloud facilities, you have a potentially open backdoor, so it only solves security if you're willing to make it your one connection going out.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
4/29/2017 9:41:34 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
Ariella,

In the part of game theory that looks at strategy, this is known as controlling the access. It works a bit like that space gate in Rogue One -- the whole planet is under some kind of shield that you can only enter through one locked portal where you're supposed to apply for access.

Essentially it's a matter of putting your defenses farther away so that you don't have to disrupt your home ground. For example, back before the antitrust decisions, movie studios owned most of the movie theaters in the US and thus made it fairly tough for small independent producers to grow into major competitiors. RCA/NBC tried to do something very similar.  Globally, it's the basis of the American participation in NATO -- doing all the fighting overseas ("fighting to the last European") worked so well for us in the last two world wars (in terms of not getting bombed or invaded) that we decided to do it in all our world wars.  It's similarly the reason England has always tried to prevent any large power from controlling the Rhine delta (logical invasion route) and at one time tried to have bases at all the global choke points for ships (Gibraltar, Singapore, etc.)  It's why for a long time Boeing, McDoug, Airbus, etc. tried to keep all the high-skilled aviation machinists in the US or Europe (to avoid the risk of an Asian entrant into the airliner business that is their most dependable revenue source).

The best place to locate security is a point the opposition can't bypass that is actually remote from your core business/facility etc.  I think that's what NetBond is trying to offer: you get an ultrafast burstable single link for your VPN into the cloud, and AT&T promises it will be a very hard target, and thus your vulnerable spot is far away and armored up.

I think.  Because honestly, looking at their web page, it could also just be a fast port with good flexibility and security.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:46:44 PM
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Re: AT&T Cloud concerns
@dcawrey, I agree. I am concerned about that as well. IoT is suge a huge giant it will be hard to find a comprehensive solution for all aspects of IoT but if they can create smaller solutions for specific parts of IoT that will definitely help.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 8:45:22 PM
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Security
Glad to know AT&T is concerned about security.

"Sending your data over the open Internet is like driving where you don't know what you may encounter along the way; like delays due to congestion or security threats like DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service.) In contrast, NetBond offers what amounts to your own private lane on a private freeway. It allows your data to breeze through unharmed and unhampered by latency issues or jitter. It's also flexible and agile, so that it automatically scales up bandwidth to accommodate peak traffic loads."

It is great that they have a plan to address security issues in the cloud because this is a huge fear of many companies using public and private clouds.

This is exciting.

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