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clrmoney
clrmoney
2/24/2017 2:18:46 PM
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The FCC on the ATSC
I like how they are going this new this braodcasting idead for better content and High Definition televison to make it better for us in a way.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/24/2017 11:14:07 PM
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FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
The concept of a consumer smartphone serving as an over-the-air programming device is particularly attractive. Also, it addresses people with disabilities, which is a good thing. Hopefully, there are not too many obstacles in getting this approved.

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afwriter
afwriter
2/25/2017 6:01:32 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
Of course, nothing is ever easy when the government is involved but I think something like this is likely to be approved quickly. I also like the idea of mobile devices getting OTA channels, but it again points to the decline of the big screen.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
2/26/2017 4:14:43 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
@afwriter OTA channels on devices would be really cool. I think one of the things digital transformation has left out is live broadcast. This includes news and sports. Could this be a reality? I would hope so, it's certainly something I would use if it comes to fruition. That's a big "if" at this point, however. 

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afwriter
afwriter
2/26/2017 10:13:48 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
It would definitely change the game. I wonder how difficult/expensive it would be to add components to a smartphone to recieve OTA channels.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
2/28/2017 3:20:24 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
@afwriter - I think that would really be the key, or albatross, to OTA channels on smartphones. And honestly, the idea doesn't really excite me. I don't watch much of anything OTA anyway. We only have an antenna for that purpose so that my husband can watch the Bronco games during football season. Otherwise, we never switch our TV over to that setting. I've grown too accustomed to watching what I want, when I want to go backwards.  

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/26/2017 10:45:09 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
The live broadcast option failed once very strongly in  a related area -- at the same time that the iPod came out, several other mp3 players tried to beat it by offering to include an FM radio. (This had been a popular option on the competitors of the old Walkman cassette players and on some of the portable disc players) Turned out nobody wanted it; they wanted to play mp3s on their player, period.

OTOH I really wouldn't mind having a radio option on my smartphone; sometimes when I'm doing housework I put on headphones, go to the mobile app for the radio station that carries basketball and baseball, and catch a game. It just feels a bit weird to be using a smartphone like an old-fashioned transistor radio.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
2/27/2017 7:49:41 AM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
Remembering the FM radio feature in old MP3 players is probably evidence over the air isn't going to work for devices these days. In addition, why would carriers even support such a thing in devices? They make money from data, not free content. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/27/2017 8:44:14 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
The thing is, nearly every radio station has streaming audio on its website, so any phone or pad already functionally gets local radio, if the user wants it. And if you are in a new to you area, just google "radio stations near here" and you'll get a list of radio station websites -- most of which will offer streaming audio of the live broadcast.

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2017 10:25:14 PM
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FCC Comments
Thanks for the article. I had not heard about this but will offer my comments on the FCC website on the new standard.

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2017 10:30:54 PM
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New Equipment
Anything that requires consumers to purchase new equipment will not go over well and will not be as profitable. The same thing happened when they forced customers to switch from analog to digital and purchase new equipment.

The commissioner has a right to be consumers about consumers buying new tuners or TV sets. The government should offer coupon programs.

She has great insight. "She was also concerned about the future of multicast sub-channels and HD broadcasts in ATSC 1.0 simulcasts, and she questioned the ability of smaller stations to afford to switch to ATSC 3.0. Plus, she did not want smaller pay-TV providers to be disadvantaged if they were not able to provide carriage to ATSC 3.0 transmissions."

The past program did not do a good job of providing education to consumers about the job. "She also felt a consumer education program would be required to facilitate the transition."

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/28/2017 7:59:34 AM
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Re: New Equipment
Annoying as it was to many people, I think the analog-to-digital transition is probably an example (if not a model) of how things will go:

1) the real reason for the decision was to free up bandwidth so that it could be resold at higher prices

2) tech companies were solidly behind it because they could force obsolete-but-satisfactory products out of use

3) the people most affected and most irritated were the ones least connected and thus least able to communicate their dissatisfaction.

Expect more transitions like that.

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Michelle
Michelle
2/28/2017 1:20:01 PM
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Re: New Equipment
@John well said. What you say about quality is telling.

The switch to digital OTA tv has been less than wonderful. I have more channels but they blink out a lot (and they aren't great). I'm less than 20 miles from the broadcast stations. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/28/2017 8:24:54 PM
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Re: New Equipment
Michelle,

Thinking about those three principles, I'd say that the full transition to skinny OTA and then a la carte will happen about as soon as the cable companies find a newer, more profitable use for existing cable -- especially trunks -- and don't want to have to invest capital in maintaining the trunks anymore. Till then, "No one can think of a way to make it pay, and ti's very difficult." Once there's a way to make more money reselling the cable networks for some other purpose, "Technological inevitability!"

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2017 10:32:46 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
@JohnBarnes, that is true, good point. I guess they forgot about that.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
2/28/2017 3:15:05 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
@JohnBarnes, there were actually ads on the radio about a year ago advertising that you should ask your cell phone carrier to unlock the ability to play the radio on your phone. I had contacted Verizon and found out it just wasn't an option with them. But I guess it was with Sprint and AT&T. I know about 10 years ago or so I actually had a phone whose selling point was the ability to play radio with it. It actually worked out great while I was working. I personally preferred that option because it meant I didn't have to spend time downloading music I wanted onto my phone. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/28/2017 8:32:32 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
ElizabethV,

Interesting! Though I think all the radio-thru-phone solutions will have very short lives because as streaming improves and wireless gets to be everywhere, there will be a simpler way to get the feed from a radio station.

Indeed, internet radio is now only a little behind broadcast radio for listenership, and given how much cheaper it is inherently -- and how much more valuable broadcast frequencies are for other purposes -- I would bet that within my lifetime, the overwhelming majority of "broadcast" audio will be internet-only, with no traditional antennas or radio signals.

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freehe
freehe
2/27/2017 10:34:35 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
@afwriter, I agree, I think it will be approved quickly too.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
2/25/2017 7:45:26 PM
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Re: FCC Moves Forward With New Broadcast Standard
With the changes at the FCC, one really cannot know--there are too many unknowns.  However, we may be surprised.    

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