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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/29/2016 10:18:11 AM
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IOT 2017
IOT has already a lot to offer so with them in 2017 just adds more to whats to come like advanced technology and virtualization etc.

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Ariella
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12/29/2016 11:24:03 AM
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@clrmoney as it progresses, it is bound to become more mainstream. Down the road it would likely be taken for granted as a part of our technological landscape the same way smartphones are today.

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vnewman
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12/29/2016 1:28:33 PM
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@Ariella - I think people will let their guard down to an extent and start to embrace it like you say, as just another piece of the technology puzzle.  What surprises me is this number: "60% say they already have the necessary skills, processes and technology to manage IoT security."  I think that's a little bit overconfident when sailing into unchartered waters.

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Ariella
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12/29/2016 1:31:18 PM
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@vnewman interesting observation. I'd have that reaction if it was above 75%, for 60% it just could be possible that they do. They're not promising they are completely hack-proof, only saying that they have the ability to manage the risk, and really every company should have been working on this for a while.

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afwriter
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12/29/2016 4:23:16 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@Ariella, I kind of agree with @vnewman here.  I feel like they are saying what other's want to hear, but we are dealing with a technology that is still evolving which makes it nearly impossible to this confident. 

I see your point as well and they may genuinely think that they have the skills needed, but Apollo Creed also thought that he could beat Ivan Drago. You are right that every company should have been on top of this for a while now, unfortunately egos can sometimes get in the way of what is best for the company. 

The good news is that IoT is becomming common place enough that companies are going to have no choice but to embrace it moving forward. 

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freehe
freehe
12/29/2016 10:54:35 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@afwriter, I totally agree. They don't have the skills and are too over confident in a field that is still new.

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freehe
freehe
12/29/2016 10:58:57 PM
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IOT 2017 Security
It is comical that companies surveyed say they already have the skills needed to address IoT security when no one company has a handle on IoT so how can you already have skills need to address IoT security.

In addition, companies have not done a great job with implementing security measures without IoT.

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freehe
freehe
12/29/2016 11:00:16 PM
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Vodafone IoT 2017
I agree with Morawski that companies need to know how to leverage IoT.

Anyone can be an adopter but learning how to leverage IoT makes a company an industry leader.

 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
12/31/2016 3:50:50 PM
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Re: Vodafone IoT 2017
@freehe:

Really good point.

Being aware of how to leverage IOT for companies is very critical to make sure that we are getting most of IOT.

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faryl
faryl
12/31/2016 9:37:49 PM
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Re: Vodafone IoT 2017
So true. And now is the right time in IoT to really jump in as a leader vs. an adopter.

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faryl
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12/30/2016 12:25:16 AM
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Re: IOT 2017 Security
I was just going to make a similar comment. It takes a certain level of hubris to maintain that security won't be an issue, especially with the breadth of security breaches we've seen with existing, more traditional technology in the past few months alone.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 2:01:13 AM
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faryl,

I suspect that's something like the confidence of a peacetime army, or a rep company that hasn't toured in a few  years, or flood control people 15 years after the last time a levee broke.The whole schmear of big data/new analytics/virtualization/standardization we've all been covering has been real important stuff and made a huge difference, but from the business side it hasn't been a real revolution. It's just been stuff they already did somewhat becoming stuff they did all the time, routinely.  Tech has been revolutionary all along but it hasn't required much real change in business practices.

So over a decade or so of that kind of consolidation and incremental improvement, a lot of newer and younger managers have come up and been promoted a few times and have gotten used to the idea that "managing tech" means "agreeing to put up with some minor hassles in order to accept having basically the same thing run better." They have never been there during a genuine tech-driven business practices revolution.

"Oh, yeah, you always say you're ready for security issues, then some guy in the tech department says he wants to do something to fix security on the new stuff, and you say go ahead, and it's all fine."

With IoT, they are about to find out how different the world can be.

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faryl
faryl
12/31/2016 3:04:19 AM
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Re: IOT 2017 Security
And unfortunately it will be the customers who pay the price for it.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 3:06:37 AM
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Re: IOT 2017 Security
faryl,

Welcome to capitalism -- the customers always pay for it.  (See, "Businesses do not pay taxes, they just collect and forward them" for another example).

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faryl
faryl
12/31/2016 4:14:12 PM
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Lol! That should really be a course in business school!

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
12/31/2016 4:26:17 PM
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@faryl:

Real good idea ! That should really help for future enterpreneurs. :)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
12/31/2016 7:00:39 PM
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Re: IOT 2017 Security
@John: Right you are, although typically you see that more in product industries and specifically-regulated industries!

Otherwise, remind me to start charging my clients more.  ;)

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 11:40:22 PM
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Joe,

Happy New Year, may the market bear ever more and may you charge it all to the clients, and in honor of the holiday I shall not point out the well-known comparison between bantam roosters and lawyers.

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faryl
faryl
12/31/2016 4:21:18 PM
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Re: IOT 2017 Security
That seems naive in tech, of all industries. By now, they should realize that even when aware of security risks, each time you introduce a fix, there's the risk of introducing new bugs.

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faryl
faryl
12/30/2016 12:31:03 AM
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Re: IOT 2017
Yeah, I'd feel better if less companies felt confident - then I'd think at least while many of them may very well be competent, they've got the experience to recognize that it's a bit early to be able to anticipate all the potential variables in play. The fact that no one seems to be prepared for the idea that media devices could be leveraged for DDoS attacks leads me to believe there are many risk areas that may yet to be even identified or acknowledged.

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vnewman
vnewman
12/30/2016 12:34:43 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
And I do hope folks are hyperaware of the issues with allowing systemic access to third-party vendors (IoT Partners) - lest they repeat the same mistake Target made a few years back - handing over the keys to the castle and leading to a massive data breach.  You don't want your "partner" to inadvertedly become your "partner in crime."

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Michelle
Michelle
12/30/2016 12:38:27 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@vn Third party access to systems can be a serious issue when your vendor is compromised. I'm not sure if these sort of breaches make the news often, but they certainly happen.

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faryl
faryl
12/30/2016 5:18:33 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
Well said! We're only as strong as our weakest link. All the strong passwords in the world don't do much if there's a back door to get in through.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
12/30/2016 6:08:48 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@vnewman Totally agree with this. 

Question: Are there products/services on the market to deal with this issue? Third party access would seem to be a big problem. Some vendor is going to make a ton of money coming up with a solution for this. 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 2:05:27 AM
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Re: IOT 2017
VNewman,

Dibs on calling the product "Sudden Cold Draft." As in what you feel when someone unexpectedly opens your back door.

Slightly more seriously, a system to intelligently recognize that there is an upsurge in traffic through a back door, and determine whether that traffic looks legit, would be a great project for a small company or a doctoral dissertation working in big data/pattern recog/machine learning. If somebody's got that underway, one of us tech journo types should go bang on their door for an interview.

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freehe
freehe
12/29/2016 10:53:13 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@vnewman, I agree. They are exaggerating. IoT is such a new technology and there are only handful who have experience or education in the field. Many companies use IoT but don't have the expertise in-house to use it effectively and don't have the knowledge or budget to hire someone who does.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 2:07:02 AM
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Re: IOT 2017
freehe,

And there are not all that many someones who do. Quite a few who say they do, of course. But even if you have the understanding and the budget to hire an expert in a field, if there aren't enough experts, some firms just won't be able to hire them.

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freehe
freehe
12/29/2016 10:51:26 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@Ariella, I agree, it is still perceived as a new technology but will become commonplace like smartphones.

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dcawrey
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12/29/2016 7:08:59 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
Interesting read. I think we're entering a time when the dynamics are changing for IoT. Instead of thinking about what IoT can offer businesses, at some point we're going to witness reasons why IoT wouldn't be useful. I would argue that there are so many use cases that we'll start identifying what's not IoT-compatible. 

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faryl
faryl
12/30/2016 12:33:55 AM
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Re: IOT 2017
I bet you're right. I can also see companies trying to shoehorn IoT technology in areas it's just not necessary just to jump on the bandwagon. Just like not everything needs a hashtag, not everything needs to be connected.

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Ariella
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12/30/2016 10:39:10 AM
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@faryl agreed, that's kind of how I feel when I see QR codes pasted on everything.

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faryl
faryl
12/31/2016 2:50:10 AM
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QR codes are the perfect example! (the worst is websites with QR codes - why not just have a hyperlink?

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Joe Stanganelli
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12/31/2016 7:11:39 PM
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@faryl: Yes!  I've seen this with QR codes and it baffles me!

I mean, I could see some *very* particularized use cases where QR codes on a website might have very limited use (e.g., a demo at a tradeshow).  OTOH, you're far better off just having the URL and the hyperlink.  Otherwise, you're just using technology to use technology.

And not even cool, cutting edge technology!  I feel like the relevance of QR codes came and went pretty darn quickly, IMHO.

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Michelle
Michelle
12/31/2016 8:08:51 PM
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@Joe QR codes were supposed to be a great time saver and help mobile users get to sites faster -- we got better phones and didn't need them. I have seen them used in very odd ways. I have worked in a building that was completed in 2013. It contains about 30 QR codes. These codes were etched on glass and metal to mark various areas.

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faryl
faryl
1/10/2017 7:40:38 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
Plus you need a second device to capture/scan the QR code!

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/31/2016 2:14:36 AM
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Re: IOT 2017
Well, in the late 1940s, when aircraft speeds were suddenly about 3.5x what they had been before the war, and when superhighways were suddenly cropping up everywhere to allow people to drive above 50mph regularly, many things were streamlined, because air resistance was suddenly an important matter. Of course it started with fighter planes and race cars ... but by 1952, they were streamlining cabinet radios, coffee tables, and refrigerators, which very rarely operate near Mach 1.

There might be an IoT phase like that. The thing is, will anyone buy either business or consumer products which record data that you aren't interested in order to report it to systems that have nowhere to put it? It's nice that my dishwasher remembers my favorite cycle so I only have to push one button to make it do what I want, but is there any other gadget in the house that wants to know that information? Or what temperature the dishwasher operates at, or how gray the water going by its optical sensors is?

Maybe the temperature, I guess, if we get smart houses that have a waste heat recovery system, as I think many houses probably could profitably have.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
12/31/2016 1:26:08 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@JohnBarnes I think there are some things that need to still be worked out from a security standpoint when it comes to IoT. Security and privacy will be big battles going forward. 

I was just reading about this Amazon Echo case, where investigators want access to a device because it might have info related to a murder investigation. That kind of stuff is scary from a consumer protections standpoint if these devices are listening to everything we say. 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
12/31/2016 4:41:16 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@dcawrey:

Agree with you about two key points - Security and privacy for IOT. These both surely are still being battled around. And security is ever green area of struggle - be it cloud, IOT or something else.

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Joe Stanganelli
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12/31/2016 6:59:01 PM
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@dcawrey: As many have pointed out, if you don't collect the data in the first place, you can never have that data compromised.  So too if you expunge the data the instant you don't need it anymore.

The problem is that Amazon Echo keeps EVERYTHING it records so as to provide better service to the customer/understand what the customer is saying/etc..  And that data can then become potentially discoverable or subpoena-able.

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Joe Stanganelli
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12/31/2016 6:56:55 PM
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@John: It's also worth noting that increased regulation/legislation in this area may have an opposite-streaminling effect.

The FTC, for instance, in advising greater and broader powers be granted to it by the legislature to regulate cyberspace, has observed that many of the things they want to see happen with consumer IoT devices (e.g., informed consent and consumer privacy opt-ins) simply can't because many such devices have tiny tiny screens -- or, in some cases, no screens at all.

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Joe Stanganelli
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12/31/2016 7:09:49 PM
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Re: IOT 2017
@clr: Alas, virtualization is more or less a no-go with IoT for the most part at this point because the devices are typically far too small to even be able to begin to bother virtualizating.

Of course, IoT devices can be incorporated into a virtualized network for added security and efficacy.  It's just that bringing virtualization to the devices itself is still something that is on the drawing board because of the physics of it all.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/31/2016 11:06:17 PM
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IoT Gets Real
Hopefully for 2017 (in less than an hour here in New York), the first things that come to mind about IoT are not just "smart cars" and "smart parking", but more, as the article says, how it interacts with customers. Healthcare is a good example of this, where patients are connected with their doctors. That being said, I have to go downstairs and rinse out the champagne glasses, so this is my last post for 2016. Happy New Year everyone!!!

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