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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/15/2016 2:10:18 PM
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Cloud IOT world
Cloud has a lot to offer with the Internet of things or business of things and with them two together is just an explosion of something wonderful.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/31/2016 1:28:21 PM
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Re: Cloud IOT world
I agree. I think the Cloud can be made into something truly amazing. If the whole security problem can get fixed..

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 2:38:38 PM
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Is there any other way?
IoT devices are not going to be powerful enough on their own to handle networking and processing and analytics, so the only way to go will be to have IoT devices communicate with Cloud datacenters to offload data and processing functions. Mesh networks might work in some niche applications, but the IoT world of the future isn't going to want to be limited to niche areas.

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DHagar
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12/15/2016 7:59:41 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@mhhf1ve - agree with your definition of the best structure and opportunities.  Additionally the API's with moble apps will drive the cloud access.  Plus the economies of scale will not make sense with the data points unless you use the cloud access you define.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 9:30:03 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
Clearly, there aren't that many directions to go with IoT network design that make economical sense. IoT devices have to rely on cloud systems, otherwise there isn't a large enough set of "things" to become an internet of things. 

The unknowns, though, are what applications will tip the IoT concept into a mainstream set of services -- and when the tipping point will happen. I think we'll see a tipping point when more autonomous cars are successfully tested and in the hands of real consumers, doing useful work. Once there are a few thousand autonomous robot vehicles roaming around, then things can get really interesting because mobile infrastructure gets deployed much more cheaply. Self-driving vans carrying mini cell towers can optimize wireless networks based on usage patterns. There's not as much risk involved in deploying infrastructure because the demand curves will be measured in real-time. Virtual network functions will complete this virtuous cycle and make efficient networks that are dynamic and self-regulating. 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/15/2016 9:52:23 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@mhhf1ve - great vision.  There you go - that is the infrastructure, design, and applications that will truly drive the users and build the mass scale that will ignite IoT.

You may be right about automobiles - they were clearly a driver with GPS and the adoption of technology there, then the phones and smart systems.

When you start connecting and then delivering public/private services of value to the consumer - the consumer will get on board.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 10:39:06 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
> "You may be right about automobiles.."

Well, or you could replace everything I said about self-driving cars with "self-flying drones" -- and if the FAA allows autonomous drones to fly almost anywhere without restrictions, then we'll really see some interesting IoT applications. Especially if those drones can re-fuel in mid-air or be partially solar-powered so that can stay aloft indefinitely..... 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/16/2016 5:53:31 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@mhhf1ve - wow - that really does open up multiple applications and opportunities and would make IoT an extended instrument.

Great vision!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:08:33 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
> "that really does open up multiple applications and opportunities..."

The trick is knowing when all these things will actually tip to become mainstream. Science fiction writers are a bit too far out to make reliable predictions, and CFOs are a bit too close to the ground to see the disruption in the stratosphere.

 

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DHagar
DHagar
12/19/2016 7:43:27 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@mhhf1ve - excellent assessment - and very true.

 

The markets are truly formed based on public and/or industry demand - which has to be unleashed to become real and advance the market.  I believe it will be a "trigger" where the consumer decides they want to be "connected" with information they don't have, services they need, or features that add to quality of life.

Note:  I noticed over the weekend that Amazon is commercially deploying drones over the holidays.  I think that will work for them - but it will take a simple practical demonstration where the drone is just another "vehicle" for the customer to begin to think about new IoT/cloud options.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/31/2016 4:24:44 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
Also I don't totally trust the backup situation on the Cloud. I backed up my photos from my phone on it and lost a bunch! I don't know how that happened?..

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DHagar
DHagar
1/3/2017 8:53:00 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@dir5288, so sorry!  I think that is a great example of how much disparity there is in performance and reliability.  These "commercial" repositories are easy to access but do not have the required redundancies and securities of the professional sites (ie EMC, HPE, IBM). 

As time goes on maybe there will be a rating system - if not by industry, by customers.

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batye
batye
1/4/2017 1:51:46 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar I would not trust any cloud yet... as in my mind it better to have your own back up on hard drive connected to router... :) but to each his own...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/4/2017 9:17:52 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, I understand your concern.  There is some risk - I think there are clouds that are more secure than others.

Of course you can take President-elect Trump's recommendation - to send things to ensure full security - use couriers!

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batye
batye
1/4/2017 10:01:04 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you, one financial Co. I do work few hours a month do use bonded and armed couriers to send encripted hard drives and fingerprint locked usb sticks between offices, as boss do not trust cloud :) yet... and after few security breaches he say better safe than sorry...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/4/2017 10:18:02 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, there you go!  Sounds like smart strategic solution to me.

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batye
batye
1/4/2017 10:36:12 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes and no I do hope things improve... as for now mantaining chain of custody for encripted hard drive before shipping and after receiving it - not an easy task...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/5/2017 7:59:22 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, very true.  I believe that in order to truly secure you have to have a different design, possibly in layers, in that one firewall will not suffice all the levels of vulnerabilities and the growing complexity in multiple devices.

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batye
batye
1/6/2017 12:30:01 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes but process did create too much paperwork at the end...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/11/2017 9:47:03 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, there you go - which compromises the integrity of the security and puts the entire process at risk

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batye
batye
1/11/2017 11:00:09 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar for me it sad reality as it no win win for anyone... only loss one way or other at the end...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/12/2017 9:23:33 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, exactly - it becomes a "Zero sum" game - which is also not sustainable.

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batye
batye
1/12/2017 9:38:05 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar I hope one day someone could create a better way of doing it or more secure...

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DHagar
DHagar
1/12/2017 10:15:48 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, we will have to.  I believe we will begin with new designs that will "layer" on security levels and as a result provide more secure devices and networks.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 9:36:13 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagra, @Bayte:

We always come into this circle of security. As stated by @DHagar layers of security is a mandatory thing, we need secure devices , networks etc.

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 2:22:11 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni thank you, in  my books you could never stop adding new layers of security or keep upgrading security...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/26/2017 11:29:43 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

I bet that desire isn't just limited to your books. There surely could be many many more.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 9:38:37 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@bayte:

The most important thing is not to lose hope. That is what keeps us going and am sure we will get there. But we must admit that despite of many efforts we still have a gap in area of security which needs attention. 

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batye
batye
2/1/2017 2:20:29 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni yes, I could not agree more but also to still be human to the end... being human :) ...and with security it never ending process of learning...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/26/2017 11:28:19 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

Can never deny basic fact. No matter how far we go in this race, we should never forget being human. As part of that we always have that enthusiasm to learn something new.

I am with you in that aspect.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 9:19:59 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni yes, you are right as for me to be human is to do good... but this days we do not see much good as media concentrating on bad - more and more...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/26/2017 11:24:48 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

Good Vs Bad - This always has to do with perspective to some extent. There is always good and bad. Ceratinly as responsible individuals we must focus to make sure good outweighs bad. This is a subject for a long debate...

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:51:58 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni I would say for me it very simple... I govern myself online same way I do in real life... and in real life I try to live it simple way treat everyone the same way you like to be treated... in my point of view where is more good than bad... and it always depends how we look at it... do you agree ???

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:57:26 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

Absolutely in agreemnet with you. I am running late with responding this time.

Again I will say perception plays major role. If we perceive a situation with positive mindset, automatically we tend to transmit into positive thoughts or outocmes and vice versa. I experience this all the time myself.

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 3:41:55 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni thank you :) but I would like to add the not only idea what we see but how we see it as perception could be modified and we follow wrong path... and trying to see what is not there as idea could be modified by the involve party trying to hide truth in the plain sight... but we would not see it as we get pre-condition to see something else... it becomes a bit scarry when you think about it... as what we see like perception could be manipulated by design it like idea get hidden in the idea... 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
5/16/2017 8:05:56 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@bayte:

I see what you are saying.

Just to be sure 'Are you saying that in some cases due to incorrect perception some ideas may be hidden or ignored?'. If so, there is such possibility. But what i think is that is the point where several key people would chime in, perceptions / thoughts / opinions get shared before getting to next level in the process.

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 12:14:08 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni yes, as group mentality controlled by the group leader... from the top of my head few countries as example - Russia, North Korea...  due to incorrect perception and/or brain washing people live and die with following false ideas... while true agenda of this regimes get hidden... same is in other areas of life... I prefer to dive in and look at the end game at the end... but it just my point of view...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
6/28/2017 7:37:25 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@bayte:

Agree with you.

Perception could go both ways, good or bad and hence the consequences.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:06:20 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni thank you, I would say like everything in life coin have two sides... and same with good and bad...

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 9:33:13 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni yes, you are right, but for some it not - taken for granted... as sometimes bad ideas take over....

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/26/2017 10:15:11 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

I wouldn't completely disagree. There are some cases where bad ideas take over. But isn't it normal - it is just a mix of good and bad, what matters is to hit the right balance and make sure bad doesn't take over good in the process.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:41:53 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni I see your point... but in my mind it always depends how you see the problem, how you involve into it... plus other factors in play...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:47:31 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye:

Absolutely, It's all the perception that leads to multiple thought processes.

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batye
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5/2/2017 3:37:19 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni yes as it like development inside the development with jumping out of paradigm...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 9:24:10 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar, @bayte:

Good discussion...

We already are able to see many examples about lack of sustainability. Unless there is substasive truth things will start falling off very easily and the audience will easily be able to make it out.

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DHagar
DHagar
1/31/2017 9:37:04 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni, good points!  I think the ability to deliver and sustain performance will separate the truly valuable service providers from the sales pitch.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/26/2017 11:18:36 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar:

Well said. Sustainability is the real deal in the competition. Delivery is possible by multiple but ability to sustain in the market for a good period of time certainly makes a diffreence to settle into a standing spot.

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DHagar
DHagar
2/28/2017 6:55:45 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@ms.akkineni, that's the reality check, isn't it.  The ability to implement and have it last!

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 9:23:18 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar I could not agree more, but everything must be implimented in timely manner as technology do grow old rapidly this days - how I see it...

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DHagar
DHagar
3/1/2017 7:54:24 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, very true.  It has to be implemented and timely to be relevent and have any value.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 7:58:56 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you, yes as I did see technology never making from the planing board as it get outdated during planning/implementatition... as everything changing rapidly...

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DHagar
DHagar
3/1/2017 8:20:37 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, agreed.  The real value to technology today is the use and business user - that will shift the focus to full implementation and will bring in an entirely different type of customer.  Great opportunity if recognized and addressed.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 8:32:32 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thanks, for me a bit scarry reality when technology become outdated even before it hit stores shelfs... but on the other hand it good for consumers and Co. who look for latest and greatest...

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DHagar
DHagar
3/1/2017 8:56:38 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, good perspective!  Yes, it definitely delivers the best products and services.This is a good example of the increased speed and options that are developing as a result of the cloud, and will be compounded by IoT.  It will be a constantly evolving combination that will be very dynamic.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 9:03:37 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thanks :) but I do hope we gonna see some type of balance at the end as for now technology getting older/outdated too rapidly to my liking... but to each his own...

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DHagar
DHagar
3/1/2017 9:13:41 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, that is a very important part of the new world!  The truly connected cloud/IoT enables you to "plug-and-play" instead of always replacing and upgrading.  So my experience has been that the advanced technology platforms and ecosystems now allow you to build with what you have and add capabilities and features, as opposed to perpetual upgrades!  This can be very welcome and a big plus for consumers.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 10:52:09 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes, I could not agree more but some Co. during planing time keep forgeting technology never stay the same and it must be future proof to make sense... other way at end Co. suffer losses...

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DHagar
DHagar
3/2/2017 4:31:31 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, yes, the planning needs to not be static but take into account the continuing evolution of virtualized connections, technology, data points, etc.  The right designs will not just be an either/or, but factor these changes in.  That is where there needs to be more strategic design.

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 6:26:54 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes, as this day we do take lot of thing for granted, sometime even with out thinking so to say... or forgeting about evolution...

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DHagar
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3/2/2017 6:58:44 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, it requires an entirely new way of thinking!  It requires considering more variables and the unexpected for the unknowns, beyond what we are currently aware of.  This requires both skill and courage.  The real test for professionals and leaders.

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 10:32:52 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar my point of view everyone must step out of paradigm and embrace new reality... trying to make change for better...

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DHagar
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3/3/2017 7:33:37 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, great vision!  You have identified the keys:  new paradigm and step out into a new future.  That truly results in real change.  The rest will be left managing the deck chairs on the Titanic!

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batye
batye
3/4/2017 10:09:46 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar  thank you, but I'm always know we are all on the same boat and we have to swim or sink... but better swim to survive... not easy but stepping out of Paradigm not an easy task :) 

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DHagar
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3/27/2017 5:41:52 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, well stated.  That's why no one holds the answers and it requires new learning and new ways of developikng the answers together.  That's the value of Telco Transformation, etc., and our community.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:43:29 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you, for me it like a gold mining but here we are mining for knowledge, while trying to learn from each other...

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DHagar
DHagar
4/3/2017 5:34:56 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, I like that thought!  I think that is world in the fast lane today!

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batye
batye
4/4/2017 1:35:45 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you :) but it life we are living now....

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DHagar
DHagar
4/5/2017 5:36:19 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, absolutely.  We need to buckle our seat belts and hold on!  Take good notes for future books and/or your grandchildren!

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 3:35:20 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thanks :) I try to do my part always big or small :) as you never know... in my books trying to recycle battery could be a big game changer... but it just my point of view...

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DHagar
DHagar
5/4/2017 10:30:56 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, good vision!  The ability to store, not just produce and use energy may be a key solution and new frontier going forward.

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batye
batye
5/5/2017 2:10:30 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you, in my books we should keep going on and never give up to embrace the changes as this days change is only constant in our life...

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DHagar
DHagar
5/5/2017 5:23:59 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, indeed!  Either change or become obsolete - everyone has their choice!  The smart people take advantage of the new doors opening in opportunity. as opposed to looking at the doors that are closing.

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batye
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5/6/2017 1:29:55 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes as how I see it no way of looking back... I keep upgrading myself taking seminars and training each month...

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DHagar
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5/8/2017 5:17:31 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, see, that's why you are knowledgeable!

Plus, that is the key added value  of Telco Transformation - keeping us thinking and learning new things.  That works!

 

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batye
batye
5/8/2017 6:02:14 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes I could not agree more TT is a good/right life line in the sea of knowledge on internet...

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DHagar
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5/8/2017 6:09:11 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, and with progressive thinking - that is what makes it stimulating.  It builds knowledge just by accessing it!

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batye
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6/4/2017 12:09:34 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar thank you for me it the only right way to look at thing and do things - how I see it...

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DHagar
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6/5/2017 7:24:57 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, that is the new answer - I call it "discovery-driven planning".  We have to learn what we don't know in order to learn what we need to know.

 

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batye
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6/5/2017 10:11:01 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar yes, I could not agree more as we do not know many things....

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DHagar
DHagar
6/7/2017 7:03:20 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, at least we don't know a lot about the "new things" - we have to figure out what we hae to replace that we know with what we need to know and learn that is new.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:03:19 AM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagari I keep learning as I do see trends in new technology and I have compete with new generation as they born with the phone in they hand... and it not easy as youth getting smarter with technology...

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DHagar
DHagar
7/3/2017 5:04:22 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, now you are talking!  You are absolutely correct - young people are learning in the new context and have a running start with building new knowledge.  We, on the other hand, have to unlearn what we previously learned in order to understand and develop new insights within the new context.

It IS work!  But if we do it, we will benefit!

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 6:21:23 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@DHagar  - yes as the technology changing employment market rapidly and this days employeer expect employee to know almost everything...  and it does create leap forward...  

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DHagar
DHagar
7/3/2017 6:26:59 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
@batye, it clearly widens the gap in opportunities.  That is why we need better upskilling and training/education systems to assist everyone in gaining the new essential skills.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 6:30:00 PM
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@DHagar yes, I could not agree more as in my books it a must have (or must do) if not we gonna fall behind... 

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7/5/2017 7:20:58 PM
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@batye, indeed!  We will be run over by those who do keep pace if not!

Excellent web sites, like Telco Transformation keep us in excellent company!

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batye
batye
7/6/2017 4:20:07 AM
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@DHagar yes, I could not agree more as I love to enjoy future now :) 

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DHagar
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7/6/2017 7:47:55 PM
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@batye, that's where the New Economy begins in reality - where new business models are created and we develop new economic/jobs opportunities

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batye
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7/7/2017 12:03:46 PM
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@DHagar yes, as everything grows and develops/changes we must follow it and do the same :) or we will be left behind... 

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batye
batye
7/4/2017 4:04:26 AM
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@DHagar  also I would like to add - education should become a global effort where Co. and gov. should try to do they best to educate it employees and /or citizens... as education/knowledge is power... 

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mpouraryan
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7/4/2017 6:16:49 PM
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Happy 4th to all throughout TT and Happy July!!

Education is critical, no doubt, @Bayte et. al--the question is one of strategy and how it is to be done--the issue is critical thinking and not be "robots" per se.   I would argue that in the era of cloud enabled iOT and yes generally being driven towards being "lazy", the ability to think critically is more crucial than ever...that's why, the trend for humanities degrees going down is a bit disconcerting....

Onward

:)

 

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batye
batye
7/4/2017 9:12:26 PM
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@mpouraryan Happy Holidays - United We Stand :) 

when I think about your point I would say you are right as in some cases I see the same trend it like things become slow... 

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mpouraryan
7/5/2017 12:15:59 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts--can you clarify, when your schedule permits, your thoughts on cases and how things are becoming slow? 

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batye
batye
7/5/2017 12:31:03 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, will do thank you :) 

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7/5/2017 12:38:50 PM
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I look forward to it--especially in light of some of the latest we're seeing--On a side note, was so keen to see Facebook's latest innovation about a "Wi Fi" finder--and especially in light of Facebook's effort to use drones to expand digital outreach (which in turn willl further enable iOT in a major way) it will be quite fascinating :) :) 

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batye
batye
7/5/2017 5:26:12 PM
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@mpouraryan yes, for me it very interesting to see as we are living in the future - now :) 

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DHagar
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7/5/2017 7:24:56 PM
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@batye, absolutely true!  You have an excellent vision of what is needed.  We can talk all we want about the new economy, but if we don't have government policies, and industry development in sync with the goal of enabling workers to add value to their jobs with information, we are just creating wish lists.

Excellent focal point.  We need new partnerships in public and private sectors.

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batye
batye
7/6/2017 4:22:30 AM
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@DHagar thank you, it would be nice, if could see this smart partnership in our lifetime in real life... not a lip services we getting in Canada... money spend on hot air... and nothing done -exept photo op for gov. political figures and CEO. players... 

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DHagar
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7/6/2017 7:50:13 PM
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@batye, good points!  The one scenario is just politics, the other is a new economic opportunity where real transformation takes place and change results for everyone.

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batye
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7/7/2017 12:08:54 PM
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@DHagar thank you, I do see it as very positive trend as at the end we gonna see positive change... 

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DHagar
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7/7/2017 1:53:49 PM
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@batye, great perspective!  If not we will end up controlling our space on the Titanic, as opposed to finding the new emerging opportunities.

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batye
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8/4/2017 10:34:12 AM
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@DHagar thank you I said it as I see it... just my point of view :) 

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batye
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7/3/2017 2:51:10 AM
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@DHagar  also I see trends in technology - where something new like iphone is good copy of the ipaq H5550 with cellphone jacket on :)... technology develops in circles where new devices on the top of the circle have everything as old device but with polished look and few add ons as better options or everything build in... 

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DHagar
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7/3/2017 5:06:33 PM
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@batye, interesting point!  I agree, a lot of "new" are adaptations of core old capabilities.

It is no longer one or the other but continued evolution and new hybrids of technology combinations that work!

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batye
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7/3/2017 6:22:59 PM
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@DHagar  for me  it like everything happens in 20 years circle when old becomes new/upgraded again and dropped on the market... 

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7/3/2017 6:28:14 PM
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@batye, good observation - there clearly is a "cyclical" evolution that takes place.

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batye
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7/4/2017 4:02:16 AM
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@DHagar  thank you I said as I see it... and with technology I see this paterns :) 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
7/24/2017 7:27:24 PM
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@batye, @DHagra:

My thoughts are inline with yours about how new innovation is basing on underlying old. I think that makes total sense if we think that the underlying technology had been around , proven and accepted in the industry. So that is the assurance that things can never go wrong at basic level. And coming to new things we always have to take chances. There could be issues in the first cut and it is a journey where we come up with fixes and make things better.

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batye
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8/4/2017 10:36:16 AM
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@ms.akkineni thank you, in my books life itself it is a game of chance but we must take it as is... as it only way to survive - how I see it.. 

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ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 10:41:13 AM
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@batye:

Ofcourse it is...Unless you take a chance there is no way to see what potential options that you have in store in life.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:12:20 PM
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@ms.akkineni yes, as no one have cristal ball and predict the future... but with knowledge of history and math you could calculate and predict - taking calculated risk...

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
9/30/2017 1:15:18 AM
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Without that risk taking things will not move proceed. As you said it got to be calculated risking with proper mitigation planned.

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:03:47 AM
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@ms.akkineni yes, you are right... but first step towards it must be taken no other way around... 

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
10/24/2017 10:39:23 AM
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Ofcourse. If you are not even taking a step there is no way to even assess the risks. In any initiatives there has to be some pre-work put in place at a high level. That should put you at a good perspective of what you are getting into. That itself should let you analyze some high level risks that you may have to deal with. If one is not ready to spend time in that pre due diligence that's when you most likely would be getting into issues.

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DHagar
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8/4/2017 5:12:18 PM
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@ms.akkineni, very true.  Which actually becomes safer than staying in the old models (at least less risk).  When we learn to look at it this way, we will be able to embrace learning and new changes.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 10:43:29 AM
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Well stated @DHagar.

In these rapidly chnaging times, one has o option but be ready to embrace the change, willing to adapt and ready to learn always.

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DHagar
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8/29/2017 5:01:12 PM
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@ms.akkineni, thanks!  Learning and adapting keeps us agile and able to add value - which is a much safer proposition than holding on to old ideas and ways of doing things.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 6:27:16 PM
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@DHagar:

It is almost kind of mandated these days to adapt and learn. That is the only possibility we have inorder to be able to contribute right in the industry and add value. Companies are no longer holding on to old school thoughts, but more willing to bring fresh forces and experiment with new ideas.

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DHagar
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8/29/2017 6:32:57 PM
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@ms.akkineni, I think you are right about your assessment.  The momentum is towards change and innovation.  When they fully embrace the change and transform, as the leading companies are doing, they will gain maximum opportunity and gains.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
8/29/2017 6:52:42 PM
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Can't agree more with your comment, totally in line.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/26/2017 10:11:07 PM
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@DHagar:

Absolutely it is, I am with you. Longeivity of any implementtaion is the key.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 2:57:38 PM
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Re: Is there any other way?
Yes, hopefully. It's just frustrting when it's said to be safe and promising all these things and then half of my pictures were deleted!

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DHagar
DHagar
1/31/2017 9:10:58 PM
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@dir5288, there you go!  The proof is truly in the ability to protect your data/pictures!

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dlr5288
dlr5288
1/31/2017 9:29:14 PM
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Yeah it just makes me more weary when dealing with the cloud. So now I'm backing everything on my laptop!

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DHagar
DHagar
1/31/2017 9:40:39 PM
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@dir5288 - smart idea!

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/26/2017 11:24:38 PM
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@dlr5288, @DHagar:

That's a good idea. I understand that it makes sense to play safe.

But in other line of thought, i am not very positive if following this approach is diluting the value of cloud. Just my thought.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 1:54:45 PM
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Yeah good point! Not using the cloud to its full capacity might not be the best idea, but it might keep things safer?

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/28/2017 5:57:53 PM
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@dlr5288:

Every organization or an individual has to assess their own needs, assess how far anything new can be adaptable. This upfront due dilegence will really help to plan right things at right time. It is not ideal to say that we will never consider Cloud because i don't trust the security. We just need to hit the right balance with proper checks and balances in place.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 6:02:59 PM
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Yes I completely agree with you! It's not practical to not use the Cloud, it just worries me sometimes. But you're right! We must find a balance.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
2/28/2017 6:05:26 PM
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Glad to know that our thoughts are in line. And i am sure that, that balance is being maintained in general.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
2/28/2017 6:17:31 PM
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Yeah true! And I'm sure as technology advances more and more and becomes more complex it'll be even harder for people to hack into the security.

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batye
batye
3/1/2017 9:24:39 AM
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@dlr5288 I would say yes and now as for some hackers the more complex system become the more easy is to find back door - Paradigm...

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batye
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3/1/2017 9:24:40 AM
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@dlr5288 I would say yes and now as for some hackers the more complex system become the more easy is to find back door - Paradigm...

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dlr5288
3/29/2017 11:27:00 PM
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True..I guess we will have to wait and see how security develops and what changes are made to make hacking a thing of the past.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:46:05 PM
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@dlr5288 I would say for now it not gonna be happening as data have value in some cases same as bit-coin... and hacking it like stealing... this is why retail stores have loss prevention people...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 11:49:40 AM
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True, good point! I think, or at least hope, that at some point in the near future hacking can be beat completely or at least slowed down..

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 2:39:05 PM
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@dlr:

I belive we still have a long way to go to get to a state when we are ready to consider hacking as a thing of the past.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
3/26/2017 11:20:28 PM
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@dlr5288:

It is true that technology and security are advancing. But the sad part is hacking industry is evolving at even faster rate. That is the real concern.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 12:59:09 PM
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Very true! And no doubt it's much easier to hack a system than it is to stop someone from getting in..

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 2:47:52 PM
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@dlr5288 it true but a good IT/Network security must know and think like a hacker to plus security holes right way... how I see it...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 11:50:48 AM
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Yeah exactly! There should be hackers against hackers to stop the bad guys from getting into somewhere.

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 3:44:53 AM
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@dlr5288 I could not agree more... as in war to win the battle oposing forces have to have the matching weapons or better if you plan to win it... as this days we are living in the time of cyber wars... sponsored by gov. unfriendly to our way of life... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/30/2017 1:44:02 PM
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Definitely living in a time of cyber wars! It's crazy to see how far we've actually come with technology and the uses we have for it!

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 12:15:19 PM
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@dlr5288 I would to see people smarten up and use technology towards peace and better future... not cyber wars... as human life is too short...

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dlr5288
6/28/2017 10:42:40 AM
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I completely agree! I think it would be so much easier to use technology in a good, positive way. Rather than in the way it's been being used sometimes..

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:05:09 AM
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@dlr5288  thanks... in my mind as humans we have more good than bad in us... it just good need to be fostered right way :) even with technology...

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dlr5288
7/31/2017 4:57:01 AM
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I definitely agree. And I think it's good for people to understand that a lot of people want to use and create technology for a better life.

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 10:38:36 AM
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@dlr5288 I do trust it a positive way and where is more good than bad :) will come out - out of this :) - how I see it... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 12:05:41 PM
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I totally agree! I definitely think there will be more positives than negatives that come out of this! We'll have to see.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:15:08 PM
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@dlr5288 yes, I would say it best to take aproach is never to give up and keep trying over and over again untill se desired result... 

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dlr5288
9/28/2017 12:07:28 PM
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I agree. I think it's important to know when to give up and try a different angle too.

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batye
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10/2/2017 4:05:48 AM
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@dlr5288 my teacher use to call it independed observer idea - step out of Paradigm and try to look from outside of the box... asking right questions and look on the side... 

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10/30/2017 1:38:49 PM
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I like that! Yeah definitely moving away for a second to process what is going on and to take necessary steps from there.

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 7:08:12 PM
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@dlr5288 I try to look at everything in positive light as in this world is more good than bad... - how I see it... 

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dlr5288
9/28/2017 12:11:06 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. :)

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:04:35 AM
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@dlr5288 yes, you are not alone in your point of view and way of thinking :) 

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dlr5288
10/30/2017 1:37:41 PM
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It’ll just waste more and more time that way..

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 2:42:21 PM
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@dlr:

Can't agree more with you. We have a saying it is very easy to break something than make something.

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batye
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1/4/2017 10:29:40 PM
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@mhhf1ve interesting observation with drones in the sky... I would worried - when they started droping down... due to the gps error or other factors brining them down from the sky... if I think more about it - it gonna be scary reality... dropping drones from the sky... on top of the self-driving cars...

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1/4/2017 11:25:33 PM
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Falling drones hopefully won't be a big problem. They're not entering the atmosphere at meteor speeds or anything.. And they're relatively small. So the damage might be bad, but not like a missile or a passenger plane. A tree falling over might cause similar damage (as long as the onboard drone fuel doesn't ignite).

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batye
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1/5/2017 2:00:06 AM
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@mhhf1ve yes and no -  as you may remember samsung battery problems and recall :) same could happens with the drones battery... or fuel formula get corrapted with human or manf. process error... things could happens... you never know :(... 

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mhhf1ve
1/5/2017 4:20:55 PM
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> " remember samsung battery problems and recall..."

I'm not sure what kind of batteries/fuel drones typically use.. I suppose lithium batteries might be common for them. 

So maybe the Loon balloons should be solar powered with minimal ignition sources onboard..? Weather balloons fall all over the place, and you never hear about them causing significant damage. 

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batye
batye
1/6/2017 12:11:09 AM
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@mhhf1ve  I would say yo never know until it becomes public knowledge... as samsung did try to cover it up at first.... 

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mhhf1ve
1/6/2017 3:31:13 AM
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It would be pretty difficult to cover up balloons falling from the sky and causing significant property damage. Just as Samsung found out the hard way that you can't deny the fact that explosive batteries is a huge problem.

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batye
batye
1/6/2017 2:12:27 PM
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@mhhf1ve yes in North America it would not be easy to cover it up... but in some countries even when rockets fall from the sky - everything got covered... "for the good of the people"

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1/7/2017 4:27:46 AM
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Well, perhaps in the post-fact era in the US, the fake news media will confuse people and convince everyone that objects falling from the sky are normal events unrelated to human activity. If a significant population of North America can deny climate change, maybe anything can be covered up if it's profitable enough to someone.

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batye
batye
1/7/2017 5:59:56 AM
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@mhhf1ve I would say it depends on many factors in play... but sometime propaganda and good PR could make people belive in anything...

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ms.akkineni
1/31/2017 9:28:33 PM
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Customized Services
Operators have the ability to provide customized services.

There is no denial that cloud-enabled IOT will open land of opportunities. One of them being - operators will have ability to provide custom services. But training plays most critical role here. It has to be three fold - IOT, Cloud and Cloud based IOT. And this is going to be little tricky, not any and every operator can get a good grasp of these three components involved. It takes some time to digest and adapt. 


 

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