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mhhf1ve
12/18/2016 9:09:49 PM
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Re: Seems like part of the ongoing challenge to the idea of "architecture" at all
> "is it an architecture at all? Isn't it becoming more of an ecology?"
Well, even ecologies can be managed a bit, so that things aren't unbalanced by unnatural forces -- though if that's called an architecture or some kind of systems management may be debated. And I suppose is arguable that humans don't do a very good job of managing complex ecosystems.... (especially when we deny scientific evidence?)
JohnBarnes
12/17/2016 2:30:31 PM
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Seems like part of the ongoing challenge to the idea of "architecture" at all
The purpose of IT/IS/Information Departments is to control information flow and processing (largely by providing it) because modern businesses depend on information, and the whole history of business is a struggle to harness (i.e. control) production processes, so the logical thing to do as information went from a minor (but vital) to a major (and overwhelming) component was to try to put handles and controls on it. Same thing that happened with finance, marketing, legal, and other once-small, now-big areas.
The difference is, information by its nature flows and functions best in less-controlled, more-flexible settings. So the logic of information itself is on the side of virtualization and flexibility -- and containers are just one more step into virtualization/flexibility, of course, but they are also another step away from the idea of a centrally directed architecture.
But if it's not centrally directed, is it an architecture at all? Isn't it becoming more of an ecology?
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 10:25:19 PM
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Re: Containers have to offer
Given that containers are all about portability, I have to wonder how many different flavors of containers can survive in the market? And if any can survive as completely proprietary or closed source packages.. It's interesting to see the trend of containers making the hardware a competitive advantage again.
mhhf1ve
12/15/2016 10:14:53 PM
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Simulations within simulations...
> "everyone wants to know exactly what performance they are going to get and the security compliance. We can't verify that until we know what you're actually going to run on that so it creates a verification issue..."
I vaguely recall some early adopters looking into running simulations of their environments and then adding in "Chaos monkeys" into the mix to test the security in a semi-controlled way.
Ariella
12/14/2016 11:08:26 AM
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Re: Containers have to offer
@Mike and that's great for us, as we have the opportunity to come here and learn about these new virtualization developments, watching the roses bloom, so to speak, which does top watching grass grow.
Re: Containers have to offer
Ariella, I couldn't find a good rose/thorn image to run with the story. Guess I didn't look long enough. So at some point we'll write about the other container offerings that are out there. Always more to do on the virtualization front.
google
""In a container, we're expected to run on top of whatever operating system package that the particular customer selected. The good news is in general that works. But in specific, everyone wants to know exactly what performance they are going to get and the security compliance. We can't verify that until we know what you're actually going to run on that so it creates a verification issue.""
I remember seeing something a while ago about Google using containers to keep their cloud customers information secure and segregated from each other and from Google's own systems. Definitely good for security. What do they mean by security compliance" here?
DHagar
12/13/2016 7:09:40 PM
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Re: Containers have to offer
@clrmoney - it truly is a different architecture. I am also thinking that it provides a basis for better operational standards - through the container design.
As with all the new technology designs - more systems focused - the key will be the mental mindsets to design and use with the full capabilities of the new models.
Ariella
12/13/2016 5:42:50 PM
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Re: Containers have to offer
@Mike love the title. It conjures up an image for me somewhat like this 
Progress appears to be all about more virtualization.
clrmoney
12/13/2016 3:18:26 PM
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Containers have to offer
The part like the libraries, system tools, runtime is very interesting for containers and they said it can speed up testing is great.
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