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DHagar
DHagar
9/30/2016 4:29:40 PM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
@dir5288 - thanks - and I agree.  As long as you are advancing by either learning/testing new pieces and adapting new technology, or building a new system and working with the discovery issues in implementation, you are gaining.

I think the future will increasingly be one of leaders and followers.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/30/2016 3:21:07 PM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
I think both stradegies would have their up and down side, but I agree with what you said that they must keep moving forward and learning, otherwsie they will get left behind.

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DHagar
DHagar
9/19/2016 1:50:14 PM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
@JohnBarnes, yes, you are correct in that I believe in what "can" be accomplished - optimism, indeed.  But there is also practical value in the elephant eating a "bite at a time".  That actually fits the bill as well with the idea of if it does not work and/or you don't like it you have learned with minimal risk - the "fail-fast" concept.   So I still agree that it works effectively in implementing your strategies, whether test-fail, or test-proceed.

Actually, I think we will have to learn new ways of learning and moving into the new frontiers of unknown anyway, otherwise we will be left behind.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
9/17/2016 6:22:53 PM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
DHagar,

You're such an optimist!  As a pessimistic type, I'd say it's better to be able to spit out a bite of elephant whenever you turn out not to be quite ready for it, and if you decide you don't want elephant for the next twenty years anyway, to be able to just toss it aside and have a green salad or a hot fudge sundae.  Major technological transformations, IMGDO, are a bit like wars: one should not get into them unless one has some idea of how to get out.

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DHagar
DHagar
9/16/2016 4:28:16 PM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
@JohnBarnes, I believe it makes sense as well - from both the opportunities (to expand on what they already have before adding new functionality/performance) and the learning curve (deploying/supporting/optimizing SDN).

Although their maximum opportunity is to provide the full NFV/SDN capability, eating the elephant a bite at a time may be preferred.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
9/16/2016 7:11:02 AM
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Re: Not at always hand in hand
adi,

I'd be interested in seeing a breakout of SDN v. NFV first approaches by industry, or better yet by "main area of negative concern", for which industry is a fairly strong proxy. At a guess, if you absolutely have to have full network functionality all the time -- if you can't afford to go into a corner and have to shut down partially or totally to get out of it -- NFV-first makes more sense to you because it is at least imaginable that you could run a hybrid network for a while if you had to. SDN perhaps has too high a ration of potential downside cost to minimum entry scale?

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Adi
Adi
9/16/2016 5:36:40 AM
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Not at always hand in hand
Interesting that there is a split between deployment schedules, because you do tend to hear operators discuss their strategies for both hand-in-hand. Is the relative prioritization of NFV due to a broader and faster IT/webscale shift towards virtualization, do you think?

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clrmoney
clrmoney
9/15/2016 10:47:31 PM
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Lean to NFV
The NFV strategy is great and they should lean toward it if that works since they say their projected income will be moren in 2020.

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