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afwriter
9/8/2016 10:45:39 AM
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Observations
1. I don't have much experience with 4K, but I know that my eyes personally can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080, so I am not sure how interested I am in dishing out cash for something that I really wouldn't get much out of. I do understand that it is a big deal for some people, though.
2. I LOVE that he admitted that they are not there to create content just to have stuff in 4K. We are seeing it too much right now that technology is being shoved down our throats because we "should want it" not because we actually do. All content will eventually get there, but we don't need our romantic comedies in 4K if it is going to cost twice as much to produce it.
Re: Observations
@afwriter I think you would notice the difference with 4K. To me there's a big difference between 4K and HD. We do have a 720 TV and a 1080 TV and I don't really notice the difference between them. I would be interested in hearing his, or Adi's, thoughts on HDR.
clrmoney
9/8/2016 11:07:14 AM
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AT&T 4K
Let's see what AT&T 4k has more toffer and they say in will be available in some of homes with the direct tv services and it will offer more so I'm curious to see how that plays out.
mhhf1ve
9/8/2016 8:58:56 PM
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Never felt more behind the curve...
> "Analysts have forecast that one in every eight homes in North America will have a 4K TV by the end of this year, growing to 50% of all homes by the end of 2020."
Wow. I'm not exactly an early adopter for gadgets, but I didn't think I'd be so far behind. I suppose if my TVs die before 2020, I might replace them with a 4K TV... but I wasn't planning on it. Perhaps I'll have no choice but to upgrade in a few years?
(I hope my VCR still works! I haven't converted some precious tapes yet....)
Re: Never felt more behind the curve...
I'm with you on that one - 50% by 2020 seems like a really lofty goal to me. But then maybe I just don't have a firm grasp on the market. We just barely got a "SmartTV" and even then it's only like 24 inches and for our bedroom, so used infrequently. The TV we use the most is probably at least 10 years old, it was my husband's when we moved in together and that was 7 years ago. I don't know how people can afford to keep up with all the updates.
Re: Never felt more behind the curve...
Shout out to my fellow Luddites, Elizabeth V and mhhf1ve, on this, BUT ....
1. What begins as a "nice" feature quickly becomes obligatory; that's how color TV took over -- after a while they were barely making b&w sets. "Progress" by product mortality leads to rapid replacement; once a feature is "standard" it has already taken over, it's just going to take a few years for the news to reach us troglodytes,
2. There's a large volume of turnover generated by households splitting and combining (not just divorce and living together but also roommates and moving in and out of parental basements). Again, once 4K is the standard, almost every turnover will bring a new 4K set into the population (or remove an old HD)
3. It looks to me like the statistic was compiled as "fraction of households with at least one 4K capable display." So it's actually counting many households that may not even be aware they have 4K -- i.e. it's something the new flatscreen in the living room could do but actually people are watching on computer screens and old bedroom/basement TVs. (Same statistical trick that says there are women in about 75% of US households and men in about 70% of US households -- you can't add them together to discover that 145% of all households are single-sex!)
Re: Observations
afwriter,
I suspect that 4K will come in through a variety of niches first -- cinemaphiles, photography buffs, some sports, recorded performances of live theatre, maybe some craft shows (it's hard to see exactly how much someone sands with fine grit paper even in regular HD), but every niche user will then propagate the 4K resolution into other things watched in the household. Eventually, as with older CRT tv's, other things will look subtly cheap and wrong.
Re: Never felt more behind the curve...
Oh, one other thought on how they are affording all of that:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/
mhhf1ve
9/10/2016 11:45:22 AM
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Re: Never felt more behind the curve...
The inevitable rise of 4K TVs isn't a problem for me at all.. but I'm slightly disappointed in the state of disposable electronics these days. I remember the days when people would try to fix things like CRT TVs because they were a huge furniture-like component in the living room. Now flat screen TVs just hang on a wall and if something on it breaks, no one can fix it, so you just have to buy a new one or get it replaced under warranty.
JohnBarnes
9/10/2016 2:09:25 PM
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Re: Never felt more behind the curve...
mhhf1ve,
I figure that's just part of the overall modern capitalist message that we are supposed to buy things, not exercise control or autonomy over them.All the tinkering hobbies -- hot rods, sound systems, home computers -- eventually become disposable it-works-or-it-doesn't because that fits a more predictable, consistent model of economic behavior and it makes sure people aren't getting satisfaction outside the market. All part of getting us into the box for good. No worries. 'Nighty-night!
"People are going to have to make themselves predictable, or the machines will get angry and kill them." -- Gregory Bateson
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