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clrmoney
6/22/2016 11:48:07 AM
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Netflix down a little
So Netflix is down that may be a shock and of course they would out compete all the others because the others don't offer what they do.
Ariella
6/22/2016 3:11:38 PM
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Re: Netflix down a little
< Amazon Video rose from eighth to third in terms of fixed network traffic generated in North America. > That's an impressive amount of progress! Do you know what it did right?
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Selling it as a standalone service instead of bundling with Prime?
Ariella
6/22/2016 7:07:44 PM
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@Mike is that all it took, or was there something else involved as well?
Adi
6/23/2016 12:17:06 AM
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@Ariella I think they've invested a lot in original programming as well, and they've got more aggressive with marketing & communication. They're also the only ones (I think) that allow downloads for offline viewing, which is quite handy if you take long flights, for example. Outside NA they've actually got a broader content library than Netflix, so all these things are adding up I think.
faryl
6/23/2016 4:18:35 AM
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I didn't realize it had an offline viewing option for fheir streaming stuff - that's good to know!
(I think the xfinity app lets users do that as well for some titles - it just takes forever to download!)
elizabethv
6/23/2016 8:39:28 AM
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@faryl - As someone who frequently downloads Amazon content - and obviously signal is a factor - Amazon downloading is really quick. And ridiculously convenient. I always struggled with keeping something on my phone to entertain my kids when we were in grocery stores. While some stores have good WiFi, others are dead zones. Now that I can download, I just keep a few of my kids favorite shows downloaded on my phone, and now I never have to worry about where I am. I know I can always offer them something to watch without killing my data with streaming, or worrying about a weak signal. It's FANTASTIC!
faryl
6/23/2016 9:10:26 PM
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Good to know! (Now I just need a phone with more memory! LOL)
faryl
6/24/2016 9:34:05 PM
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My friend is leaving for a trip for Europe next week and did not know that you could watch Amazon prime stuff offline.
So you've improved her travel experience as well!
Ariella
6/23/2016 8:12:41 AM
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@Adi thanks for that. It sounds like they are doing a lot of things right in terms of giving customers what they want.
mpouraryan
6/23/2016 11:39:32 AM
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I may be the "exception" to the rule--I have had Amazon..and I finally decided to check out NetFlix--besides the "dual screen" and some of the original content, there is not much of a difference--Netflix has to innovate even further to stay relevant.
Ariella
6/23/2016 12:01:57 PM
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@mpouraryan did you give up Amazon's services when you adopted Netflix, or do you subscribe to both?
mpouraryan
6/23/2016 12:15:15 PM
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I currently have both for the next 30 days..I'll be continuing my Amazon afterwards.
Thanks for asking.
Wishing you all a great rest of the day :)
faryl
6/23/2016 9:13:32 PM
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I got hooked on Netflix when I didn't want to wait to get episodes of "Lost" on DVD, so liked their streaming option.
I rarely watch it now though - and almost always for TV series or original content. Aside from documentaries, I don't remember the last time I watched an actual movie on there!
mpouraryan
6/24/2016 2:37:59 AM
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As I am working away assessing the aftermath of #Brexit (and needless to say it is a shock), Mandela is playing on the background on yes, Netflix :) The World is waking up to a different World on all fronts folks.
faryl
6/24/2016 10:00:19 PM
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Brexit hasn't fully sunk in yet for me - I've been having trouble wrapping my mind around the massive shifts in the global (and domestic) political landscapes and I'm realizing that at one point, citizens of countries with governments that we view as dictatorships or had coups took their country's stability for granted like we (or at least I) do.
An uplifting documentary on Netflix sounds like a good idea right now!
mpouraryan
6/26/2016 1:04:54 AM
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As I am walking away, I am watching "West Wing' on Netflix :)
Beyond that, though, Here is one thing that should give somewhat of a heart to those who may want a "redo":
2,786,407 signatures
Interesting times......
faryl
6/28/2016 8:39:21 PM
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The "West Wing" is one of my favorite "classics" to watch on Netflix - sad how many of the issues still ring true and haven't changed since it aired though :-/
mpouraryan
6/28/2016 8:41:36 PM
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It is absolutely spot on and then some!!
It is probably one of the best civics lessons there is--one learns much about Government, Leadership, Transformation and Vision in the 42 Minutes of the episode than in any textbook anyday.
faryl
6/28/2016 9:01:23 PM
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It makes me wish Sorkin would run for a political office
mpouraryan
6/28/2016 9:12:34 PM
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Now that would be an interesting thought...although I'm seeing he's selling Screenwriting skills for $ 80 :)
freehe
6/28/2016 9:42:58 PM
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Netflix still wins
"Taken together, streaming audio and video are now generating more than 70% of evening traffic on fixed networks, and Sandvine expects this figure will reach 80% over the next four years. And that's against a background of overall traffic growth on ISP networks, with Cisco forecasting Internet traffic will reach 2.3 ZB per year by 2020."
These are incredible statistics. How will companies handle this continued growth? Currently users experience issues when steaming video on low-end or free sites such as YouTube and experience video freeze issues.
dlr5288
6/28/2016 11:32:08 PM
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That is crazy. I can't believe how much growth is happening. I think it'll only grow more and more in the future.
batye
7/7/2016 4:16:48 AM
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@dlr5288 yes as it here to stay and keep growing rapidly... in Canada it have a bit of hurdle - https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2015/01/22/the-list-netflix-doesnt-want-you-to-see-how-canada-really-stacks-up-to-us-version.html
and http://globalnews.ca/news/2651298/netflix-vpn-crackdown-unblock-us-goes-dark-as-canadian-users-cry-foul/
dlr5288
6/24/2016 11:44:42 AM
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Me too!
I started watching Netflix when I wanted to watch the whole Office series. After that, however, I barely used it. I definitely think it's more geared towards watching shows rather than movies. In my opinion.
faryl
6/24/2016 10:03:27 PM
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I think the fact that Amazon's not an option on my Apple TV makes it a less-appealing option for me.
It takes too many extra steps or I have to watch on a significantly smaller screen (iPhone or fire vs. a TV), so I have to be really motivated to use if.
dlr5288
6/25/2016 1:31:04 PM
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I agree!
It should definitely be an option and I'm not sure why it isn't. I think it would become so much more popular if they joined up with them.
faryl
6/28/2016 8:57:34 PM
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I think I read that Amazon discontinued selling Apple TVs recently though - so I guess that will be unlikely!
elizabethv
6/30/2016 9:50:47 PM
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@mpouraryan - I think you are definitely the odd man out, at laest where streaming is concerned. I actually have run into very few people that have also had Amazon, muchless truly preferred it to Netflix. I'm actually partial to having both, since they do have different content. But as far as actually watching shows, aside from the ability to download, I don't notice any kind of obvious difference to make me prefer one to the other. Each has it's place on my phone, and televisions, and neither is likely to leave any time soon.
dlr5288
6/30/2016 11:47:36 PM
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I agree with you.
I think both businesses have different content. Neither has everything, which is unfortunate. However, I don't think one is actually better than the other. At least in my opinion.
JohnBarnes
6/26/2016 6:52:11 PM
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Ariella: the "impressive amount of progress" is just an artifact of the measurement and doesn't really require an explanation. The comparison is between rankings. Netflix has a bit more than twice as much downstream traffic share as #2 YouTube (35.15 versus 17.53). The next eight in the list, beginning with Amazon Video, are all packed together between 4.3 and 1.7. So picturing a horse race, Netflix wins by many lengths, YouTube places by being between the winner and the pack behind it (though closer to the pack), and Amazon Video shows because they are at the front of a very tight pack. It's a runaway.
Rankings and shares are both dubious ways to report gains, and combining them like this makes it all nearly meaningless. Netflix is the biggest by far. Out of the non-Netflix downstream shares, YouTube has the biggest by far. Everyone else is packed up, way, way back, and maneuvers within the pack are insignficant in the overall scheme of things.
afwriter
6/22/2016 11:56:05 PM
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Only the beginning
This is only the begining of a 100 years war. Netflix was the first, but other companies are trying so hard to "do what Netflix doesn't". These stats are going to waver back and forth for decades to come.
It is important to not however that Redbox and Blockbuster have both tried and failed to rival Netflix's streaming service.
faryl
6/23/2016 4:27:12 AM
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Didn't YouTube try to enter this space as well?
It's interesting to see who's successful.
Amazon's infrastructure makes it such a logical offering, it seemed almost more of a "we have nothing to lose" venture that's done really well.
I'm kind of surprised Apple hasn't tried to step up iTunes offerings with some sort of monthly plan for streaming video.
JohnBarnes
6/26/2016 6:57:33 PM
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Netflix is also benefitting from the social media cycle
Watching TV and movies is much more social than it used to be (and it was always pretty social). One reason to watch is to be able to talk about what you saw with friends/neighbors/acquaintances -- in other words, to create some traffic in your social network because traffic maintains the social network you need. If more shows are on Netflix, more people watch it because it gives you access to more conversations (and of course those conversations are where you hear about new shows). The bigger it gets, the more advantages there are to having it; the more advantages, the more people sign up.
Ariella
6/26/2016 7:28:02 PM
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@johnbarnes the social media conversations extend even beyond real life conversations. I know that for kids in school, talk about shows in common is how some identify their groups. Adults do that less in real life (I think) but they do participate in discussions about the shows they follow online.
JohnBarnes
6/26/2016 7:40:03 PM
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Ariella,
Yep. Time was when tribes of kids self-organized around music, or less-so comic books or some literary genres. There's now very clearly a great deal of neo-tribalism around movies and especially around ongoing shows.
(Favorite detail: several dating sites now have little binary checkboxes that are supposed to sort basic types of people: cats/dogs, thin crust/thick crust, beach/mountains, etc., and the ones that have that have begun adding Wars/Trek (the "Star" is implied)).
Ariella
6/26/2016 8:02:45 PM
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<, and the ones that have that have begun adding Wars/Trek (the "Star" is implied)). > @JohnBarnes obvious to any sci-fi fan worthy of the name. And if you have to ask, you just don't belong.
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