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freehe
freehe
5/22/2016 9:45:31 PM
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NFV Maturity
I am curious why no US companies have signed on. Then again, the U.S. always lag behind in technology. There was a NFV & SDN Summit 2015 in Paris but Vodafone was not in attendance. Seems kinda strange that they didn't participate as a vendor.

http://www.uppersideconferences.com/nfv-sdn/

Dell'Oro disagrees and believes NFV is advancing http://www.delloro.com/news/network-functions-virtualization-industry-is-progressing-and-several-use-cases-emerging-for-2016-according-to-delloro-group

If Vodafone is frustrated with NVF immaturity then they need to be the forerunners to help make it mature. NFV is a young architecture only 3 years old so it will take time for it to mature just like with any other industry. Vodafone should not be frustrated this early on. IEEE is having a NFV conference this year. http://nfvsdn2016.ieee-nfvsdn.org/

Here is a great diagram of NFV and SDN https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/contributed/nfv-and-sdn-whats-the-difference/2013/03/

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dlr5288
dlr5288
5/22/2016 6:01:24 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
Yes, good points! I agree. I think anything, especially technology based, is going to take some time. They have to work out the kinks and find out which ways will work best. All in good time.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/16/2016 5:08:33 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@JohnBarnes, great insight and assessment of different stages of development - as always!

I welcome your expertise in outlining then a "successful" model of leadership and the right planning to truly "mature" the organization.

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DHagar
DHagar
5/16/2016 5:06:00 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@batye, yes, indeed.  So the "real" functions of a vision do produce that understanding and context, as opposed to the label of "true vision".  We have a lot of people claiming the labels, but without understanding of what you need to build, it is just a futile exercise.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/15/2016 2:04:52 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@DHagar, @batye,

I think there's a real fear that most of technical/new-industry advance is really just the blind watchmaker at work. Much more comforting to think that the people upstairs are seeing what the world will be like in twenty-five years and building that, than it is to realize they're just trying to keep the doors open and the paychecks coming while they wait for one of the big projects to succeed.

Much like any other situation where many are called but few are chosen, the success stories do all seem to be hard workers with a clear idea of what they wanted to do -- but the hard work is only a necessary, not a sufficient, condition, and I'm not even sure the "clear idea" is actually necessary. It may just be that people with clear ideas take less time over decisions and don't spend any time reviewing them, so a firm with clear ideas at the top moves faster and more decisively, and fast, decisive, rightmoves are absolutely necessary.  The ones who happened to make the right moves succeeded, and thus clear ideas tend to associate with eventual success.

It's a bit like the Rocky Mountain brown spotted trout. Somewhere back there, there was a trout who was unusually resistant to whirling disease (endemic in Rocky Mountain streams). S/he happened to have brown spots. No doubt, if that trout were to look back at how its descendants have taken over the streams up here (maybe in a ghost-written memoir, TROUT! Lessons from the Stream of My Life), he or she would stress the value of swimming hard, eating lots of bugs, spawning every chance you get, and having brown spots.

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batye
batye
5/14/2016 3:12:55 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@DHagar  sometimes hype overtake everything, and everyone saying  "true vision" but wiout even understanding what is going on...

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DHagar
DHagar
5/13/2016 4:55:25 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@JohnBarnes, well said as to the the typical environment!  I also agree with your assessment of the "labels" leadership and vision - which the images of both are in reality immaturity.  I should more correctly state that I view the benefit of a "true vision", which as opposed to the pseudo-vision, engages all involved to understand the real need, context, solution, and to put that in order to solve the problem.

That is the exception more than the usual, which is why we suffer with solutions that don't fit and don't work.  When you have true execution it moves beyond the positive bumper sticker labels (ie leadership, vision).

Your thinking is great - keeps us intellectually honest.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/12/2016 8:35:23 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
DHagar,

As I've often said, I think the whole idea of "vision" in the business and tech world is at least as suspect as "leadership"; usually the tech comes first, incrementally, for small concrete problems, and then people retro-invent  a "vision" that they attribute to a "leader" who supposedly knew it all along. 

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DHagar
DHagar
5/12/2016 4:11:04 PM
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Re: Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
@JohnBarnes, good insight and perspective on the development evolution.  We also have to be able to vision it first and then develop it, rather than simply try to evolve from existing solutions; otherwise we end up with incremental versions of what we already have created.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/12/2016 7:12:57 AM
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Horseless carriage, wireless telegraph, intelligent typewriter ....
"They tend to make traditional network elements software-based," he told an audience of senior executives from the service provider community. "Just virtualizing it doesn't make it elastic and self-healing...."

Exactly what you expect when a technology is immature: even the early adopters have not yet fully worked out what it is for and are still explaining things in terms of more familiar, older technologies.  So the tech is not quite there yet and the full scope and implications cannot be worked out by the community-to-be until things are further along technically.

All things in time. Any bootstrap process is slow at the beginning.

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